Norinco M305 vs Browning Bar

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I just ordered a Norinco M305B that is coming in around June. I am buying this gun just so I can have something different while Moose hunting, and to do a little bit of target shooting. I don't plan on any upgrades other than maybe a scope. Am I better off getting something like a Browning Bar or Remington semi auto ?

I really like the idea of having something different in the hunt group, but with all of the stuff I have read about the M14s, I feel like I am getting myself into a hobby all on its own. Is that true, or would a out of the box stock M305 be able to be a solid, durable hunting rifle, thats able to eat up about 150 rounds a year at the most, with no problems or visits to the gunsmith.

I realize that most people who buy a M-14clone want to take the Courses, and upgrade parts, and basically learn to, and do lots and lots of alterations to the M-14. I am not really interested in that. I just want a Hunting rifle that is'nt the same ol, same ol. But I think I might be making a mistake if you HAVE to do all of the mods and take the Courses.

I just want to shoot.
 
Out of the box M14s. Mine's stock plus a scout scope on a front-end rail, and it's coming hunting with me ASAFP.

Longer shots, I'll have my bolt-action Savage 10FCP w/ HS Precision stock... anything where I'm figuring shots inside 200yd will be the M14s.

-M
 
Im glad to hear that. Who knows, maybe I will get into the aftermarket down the road, but for now I just want a Moose rifle thats a little different. I also dont want my #### to fall off.
 
I figured that a M-14 would take alot more than 150 rounds a year. I just wanted to make sure I was'nt opening a whole can of worms here in the maintenance and parts department. You guys re-assured me on my decision to pre-order the M305 from Marstar.
 
Scope

Only thing your'll notice is that the scope mount for the M14 is about $100-$250 depending on what you get. You may also want a cheek riser for a really good fit for the scope mount. Other than that you don't really need any other mods to the gun. You may later want to try some of the easier ones to improve accuracy (spring guide and shim kit).

The Browning, Remington or Benelli are all hunting purpose built guns that you can find bases for very easily and cost effective. Any will fit your bill but for your something different requirement, I would give the nod to the M14. The only other thing you may notice is that the M14 is slightly heavier than you average gun.
 
2 totally different guns- the only thing i have against the m14 et al is the WEIGHT- 7-9 pounds vs about 11-14 when you add in the scope and ammo- and no real way to save on that either- and the fact that you're limited to 170 grain or less pills whereas the top end of 308 is the limit with the browning, or remmy for that matter-
 
t-star said:
2 totally different guns- the only thing i have against the m14 et al is the WEIGHT- 7-9 pounds vs about 11-14 when you add in the scope and ammo- and no real way to save on that either- and the fact that you're limited to 170 grain or less pills whereas the top end of 308 is the limit with the browning, or remmy for that matter-
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Totally agree, I have lost my love for carrying a scoped M14m BUT seen as I love the nostalgia of hunting with my M14 , I am on a mission to master iron sights inside of 300yards.

Set up properly, the M14 can and does digest 180 and 200 grain bullets.
You need a USGI or Springfield gas cylinder and one of SADLAK's NM Grooved pistons.
Extensive testing has shown excellent results withe heavier bullets AND more importantly, does not stress the oprod.
 
The M14 is an excellent rifle for hunting, simple and durable, mounting the scope is a little more but initial purchase is less too. You are limited to 308 (if you percieve that as a limit..) on the M14 where the BAR goes all the way to 338WM.
I never liked the magazine system on Brownings but YMMV.
 
the REASON for the hinged floorplate/magazine system was that "hunters" ( and i use that term loosely) were dropping the mags on the trail, leaving only the round on the chamber or empty to work with- seems to be a "gremlin " with all magazine fed guns, although, i've never had it happen, i usiually carry a second mag so i can switch bullet weights if need be- ie 250's for 275s
 
M14Doctor said:
Totally agree, I have lost my love for carrying a scoped M14m BUT seen as I love the nostalgia of hunting with my M14 , I am on a mission to master iron sights inside of 300yards.

Set up properly, the M14 can and does digest 180 and 200 grain bullets.
You need a USGI or Springfield gas cylinder and one of SADLAK's NM Grooved pistons.
Extensive testing has shown excellent results withe heavier bullets AND more importantly, does not stress the oprod.
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you'll get that back when your deadlights start to dim and you find yourself needing that 4x12 power scope-
 
M14Doctor said:
Totally agree, I have lost my love for carrying a scoped M14m BUT seen as I love the nostalgia of hunting with my M14 , I am on a mission to master iron sights inside of 300yards.

Set up properly, the M14 can and does digest 180 and 200 grain bullets.
You need a USGI or Springfield gas cylinder and one of SADLAK's NM Grooved pistons.
Extensive testing has shown excellent results withe heavier bullets AND more importantly, does not stress the oprod.
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Where would one get these products in Canada?
 
If you plan to hunt with it then go with the Bar, easier to scope and lighter.

Handloaded they are very accuate.

If just for range use then either one will do
 
I buy all my g.I. Spec pistons direct from Sadlak, Mike is a great guy to deal with.
Here's info with current pricing

NM Piston, Polished* -* Manufactured to National Match (NM) specifications
$* 34.00 ea
140032

NM Piston, Polished and Titanium Nitride (TiN) Coated -* Manufactured to National Match (NM) specifications
$* 42.90 ea
140033

NM Piston, Polished and Titanium Nitride (TiN) Coated - Manufactured to National Match (NM) specifications with groove to meet National Match spec. per USGI drawing # 9352724
$* 52.90 ea
 
t-star said:
the REASON for the hinged floorplate/magazine system was that "hunters" ( and i use that term loosely) were dropping the mags on the trail, leaving only the round on the chamber or empty to work with- seems to be a "gremlin " with all magazine fed guns, although, i've never had it happen, i usiually carry a second mag so i can switch bullet weights if need be- ie 250's for 275s
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It makes road hunting easier too.
 
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