Norinco M4 dealers

AFAIK the only AR with a 20" barrel that is readily available at retail is the Stag Model 4. The Norinco CQ 311-1 is not available at retail any more.

Either get the stag, or wait for an AR you like to pop up on the EE.
 
Thanks.
Its not that I really want the 20" model it's I dont want to get back into restricted weapons again or more accurately I dont want to be confined to a club setting when I go shooting with my kids!

SO that leaves me with the M4 or JR Carbine as my basic affordable next weapon. I would prefer the Tavor!!!!
 
Riven said:
Thanks.
Its not that I really want the 20" model it's I dont want to get back into restricted weapons again or more accurately I dont want to be confined to a club setting when I go shooting with my kids!

SO that leaves me with the M4 or JR Carbine as my basic affordable next weapon. I would prefer the Tavor!!!!
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20" barreled AR is restricted in this day and age, has been since the mid 90's.
 
All AR-15's and variants are restricted by name. they were actually meant to be prohibited but some of the shooting orgs managed to convince the government to only restrict them.

I think i read it was a choice between the FAL, and the AR, anf obviously they chose the AR.
 
P90Puma said:
20" barreled AR is restricted in this day and age, has been since the mid 90's.
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Yep, restricted by name, so even if the gun would meet all other requirements for non restricted status, it would still be restricted by this factor alone.

To the OP: Have you looked into the Kel-Tec SU-16, or .223 CSA VZ-58 models?
 
Riven said:
Thanks.
Its not that I really want the 20" model it's I dont want to get back into restricted weapons again or more accurately I dont want to be confined to a club setting when I go shooting with my kids!

SO that leaves me with the M4 or JR Carbine as my basic affordable next weapon. I would prefer the Tavor!!!!
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Unfortunately the AR-15 has been named as restricted for almost 2 decades (on and off a few times)...

There are some options though... The CSA VZ 58 carbines are non-restricted and available in .223, under $1000. Also there is the Mini 14 (much more accurate and an improved version), Kel Tec SU-16, and Benelli MR-1. The Benelli is around $1500, but the others are all under $1000.
 
All AR's restricted? One strike against the noob...

Just looked at the Kel Tec & MR-1. Both very nice.
But due to availability locally im going to focus on the Mini 14 or Jr Carbine.

Thanks for the feedback everyone & setting me straight on the M4.
 
Riven said:
All AR's restricted? One strike against the noob...

Just looked at the Kel Tec & MR-1. Both very nice.
But due to availability locally im going to focus on the Mini 14 or Jr Carbine.

Thanks for the feedback everyone & setting me straight on the M4.
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You may want to entertain the idea of keltec su-16 too. It can be dressed up very ar15ish, and is non-restricted.
 
I have the Mforgery, but if I were looking for a 20" AR to shoot over those lovely irons the way it was inteneded, it would be one of those Stag's from Arms East.

I believe they were the Government model, Model 4R 20" 1/7" 556NATO, looked like the original C-7 service rifle circa somalia 1992. I'm not sure if they are avaliable anymore. I like the fixed a2 butt as well on these.
 
As has been sudgested already, I'd look at the SU-16F as it's non-restricted and can def be dressed up or down. I had mine at the range yesterday and let one fellows boy shoot it and the next thing I knew, I had a line of kids that wanted to shoot it. It looks almost like an AR so the kids thought they were Chuck Norris!!

With the LAR-15 mags, I gave each kid 10 shots and each one had a smile a mile wide when done. I didn't get much shooting in but it was worth it. I remember when i first was handed a rifle and allowed to let er rip!! Here's why the kids loved it.
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