norinco M4 vs CZ 858

I have both, but what hasn't been said yet:

-A .22lr conversion kit drops the cost of operation substantially for the CQ

-The paint on both guns is ugly, but the paint on the CZ "ages" well (as in, it gets chipped but it more or less holds). The paint on the Norc does NOT age well - it flakes off and becomes a disgusting mess to work with.

-Upfront, the CQ is more "shootable," I find, with less muzzle-rise, less recoil, and a more crisp trigger; whereas the CZ, I find is a mule to shoot with a lot of muzzle rise, beefier recoil, and a lot of creep on the trigger.

-Upfront, the CZ is a better value with more accessories.

-The CQ has better upgradability (although handguards are a ##### to find and install)
 
These two "assault" rifles are so different in design and function that it is nice to alternate between them. If you like shooting starting with either one is fine. You will end up with the other after you got bored with either. That's what happened to me, after 1000+ rounds with my CZ 858 I got the Norc M4.

These two guns are really fun to shoot.
 
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