Norinco NP-34

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Okay, so I've got my Taurus PT92 and I LOVE 9mm, I'm sick of shooting my Glock 22 (.40) and I'm sure I'll love my G23 (.40) when it finally comes but today my father in law buys a SiG P229 and well I fall in love but the missess would flip if I dropped $1,500 on a pistol especially when I've got a G23 on the way, so this will be my last pistol for a while, a Norinco NP-34 (SiG compact copy). Problem is this, I don't want to throw away $350 on a pistol that really isn't enjoyable so tell me, are these Norinco's any good? I've done some searching on threads here and read about trigger changes, I'm willing to do this, granted if it's not too difficult but I'm no gunsmith and am worried I might be getting in over my head. Also, is the NP34 right or should I go with the more full-sized NP 22? I figure I've got the full size glock and full size Taurus so I might as well get a compact especially since the 229 from today was SO fantastic and small. Guys at the range always rag on Norinco's but all they shoot are 1911's, STI's, S&W M&P's and they're all OLD farts not willing to be "open" to a Chinese made pistol.

You tell me,
Tim.
 
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Sig 228 copy

I like my brother's Norc 'Sig 228'. It's been a good gun thus far... reasonably accurate, feeds well, trigger's not bad. There have been stories of rails cracking in Norc Sig-226 copies, though...
 
CobraGT said:
I like my brother's Norc 'Sig 228'. It's been a good gun thus far... reasonably accurate, feeds well, trigger's not bad. There have been stories of rails cracking in Norc Sig-226 copies, though...
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Was the trigger stock? The only thing about triggers I know that I don't like is a long trigger, tried a Beretta Vertec at the gun shop today and didn't like that at all (even in single action, a very long trigger pull)

I'm not too worried about the cracking because I know Marstar will hold up on their end of warranty which I'm assuming covers any cracking within a year. Excellent point though, and thanks for getting the ball rolling here.
 
for that price 350,NP34 its a really nice gun,even for 500 bucks its still a great gun, someone said nork sucks go get a real deal, yeah if nork as good as a 1200 real sig who would buy a real sig?
 
Well I would buy a real SiG if I could afford it right now, it would be nice to have the name.

Ultimately I've never even seen this Norinco in person, let alone felt it for balance etc. so I'm worried I might not be a great of it. Anyone own the 22 or 34 willing to share some experience? I live in Hamilton and haven't seen a gun shop in the area at all sell Norinco's.
 
timothydgordon said:
Well I would buy a real SiG if I could afford it right now, it would be nice to have the name.

Ultimately I've never even seen this Norinco in person, let alone felt it for balance etc. so I'm worried I might not be a great of it. Anyone own the 22 or 34 willing to share some experience? I live in Hamilton and haven't seen a gun shop in the area at all sell Norinco's.
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Nothing against the Norinco (even tho I do joke about them sometimes) but it seems you already know what you want. You've got guns to shoot already so wait until you can afford what you really want and know to be the better pistol. I've been disapointed before because I bought a lesser version of what I wanted from being impatient. Also consider the Sig resale value so if the s**t hits the fan sometime & you have to sell it will be snapped up quickly. My P226 in SS is one of my favourites. How much fun would it be to shoot with your father in law side by side with the Sigs? Mine would rather have shot AT me but that's another story.....
 
Afternoon.

I've got the NP22. Over 1000 rounds mixed factory and re-loads. Not a single mis-feed. Trigger smooths out with time, little gritty @ first. Accurate. I gut a Houge Handall on as the grips plastic and get a little slick. For $349 it was money very well spent.

all the best,

Mike.
 
shortandlong said:
I tried a sig and my 226 copy no difference
not 500 worth anyway
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WHEW! Wait a minute, you're saying the difference between SiG and Norinco is nill??? I'm not trying to be rude or call you out but you're well versed in firearms, experienced and worldly? Don't do this, you might encourage me to buy the NP-34 and NP-22!!!!
 
I won't say its nil but I have shot the sig 225, 226 and my np 22 About once to three times a week for the last 2 1/2 years
( i bought the np22 just so i could shoot the crap out of it, I have well over 1000 rounds out of it .....no probs
it likes 115 grain but thats fine with me
I don't consider myself an expert it just my opinion, my view

I guess what it comes down to is what do you want and like?
 
I have a P226 and handled a NP22...

Sig has a better finish of course. If the Norinco could last as long as the Sig than Norinco would be WAY better deal, but from what I read alloy Norinco aren't that durable...
 
shortandlong said:
I won't say its nil but I have shot the sig 225, 226 and my np 22 About once to three times a week for the last 2 1/2 years
( i bought the np22 just so i could shoot the crap out of it, I have well over 1000 rounds out of it .....no probs
it likes 115 grain but thats fine with me
I don't consider myself an expert it just my opinion, my view

I guess what it comes down to is what do you want and like?
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1000 rounds isn't even a break in......
 
Ignore the NP34 nay sayers. Most are happy to share opinions as we all do but few own the NP34:rolleyes:. Sure they(Norinco) had some problems initially with the alloy frame rails cracking, but so did SIG. I have had mine for 4yrs now and it is without a doubt one of my favorite 9mm's(Yes I have a SIG too). I just wish I could take it with me to the States when I travel but their embargo on Chinese(and other select countries of manufacture) guns prohibits entry into the US, even on a temporary basis. You'll be happy with it but you will need to change the God awful plastic grips over to a nice set of Hogue wraparounds. The P228 grips fit perfectly as do most of the other components if u ever want to change them out or replace recoil springs in future. The strong initial trigger pull will become lighter with use. Nothing works better than a good cleaning and polishing of the contact surfaces of the innards. Dont be too ambitious and try to be amateur gunsmith and change out the trigger springs to a lighter weight. Sure it will give you an easier trigger pull but it will also result in many light strikes and an unreliable gun. This is common in many guns, most notably the Glocks and the Norincos and often suggested by folks who have a friend who has a friend who did it:runaway:Reality says its fine, but you can always experiment and see for yourself.
Most importantly have fun with it and be safe. A couple of extra mags is an excellent investment along with the grips..
Cheers:)
dB
 
daBear said:
Ignore the NP34 nay sayers. Most are happy to share opinions as we all do but few own the NP34:rolleyes:. Sure they(Norinco) had some problems initially with the alloy frame rails cracking, but so did SIG. I have had mine for 4yrs now and it is without a doubt one of my favorite 9mm's(Yes I have a SIG too). I just wish I could take it with me to the States when I travel but their embargo on Chinese(and other select countries of manufacture) guns prohibits entry into the US, even on a temporary basis. You'll be happy with it but you will need to change the God awful plastic grips over to a nice set of Hogue wraparounds. The P228 grips fit perfectly as do most of the other components if u ever want to change them out or replace recoil springs in future. The strong initial trigger pull will become lighter with use. Nothing works better than a good cleaning and polishing of the contact surfaces of the innards. Dont be too ambitious and try to be amateur gunsmith and change out the trigger springs to a lighter weight. Sure it will give you an easier trigger pull but it will also result in many light strikes and an unreliable gun. This is common in many guns, most notably the Glocks and the Norincos and often suggested by folks who have a friend who has a friend who did it:runaway:Reality says its fine, but you can always experiment and see for yourself.
Most importantly have fun with it and be safe. A couple of extra mags is an excellent investment along with the grips..
Cheers:)
dB
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Thank you that! I really appreciate you putting an honest, helpful word forward.

Well, I ordered TWO sets of Hogue grips today for the P228/P229 so I'm ordering myself the NP-34 tomorrow. The first set of Hogues is for my father-in-law the other set is for my Norinco!

Tim.
 
228

The trigger is stock on my brother's, and it is a looooong, heavy pull in double action. Single action, though, is a nice, short, clean break. I haven't shot a 'real' SIG, so I don't know if this is peculiar to the Norc copy... or just like the 'real thing' :)

it's a pretty accurate (ie as accurate as my G17) gun, and 100% reliable, in my experience.

timothydgordon said:
Was the trigger stock? The only thing about triggers I know that I don't like is a long trigger, tried a Beretta Vertec at the gun shop today and didn't like that at all (even in single action, a very long trigger pull)

I'm not too worried about the cracking because I know Marstar will hold up on their end of warranty which I'm assuming covers any cracking within a year. Excellent point though, and thanks for getting the ball rolling here.
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Ok,

Background. I owned an NP-34 for about 2 years, I now run a Glock 17, and sold the NP-34.

History:

I was hands on with an NP-34 at Lever Arms a few years back, (5 years ago) and saw the difference between the generation 1 and Generation 2 NP-34's. Night and day in fit and finish.

I ordered an NP-34 from Marstar, and was very pleased when it arrived. I ordered a case of 1000 rounds of Chinese 9mm at the same time.

The trigger was about a 28 pound pull when it originally arrived. Yes. 28 pounds. I actually had 2 NP-34's (one was purchased for a friend) and they had 25 and 28 pound triggers respectively. Second pull was about 7 pounds if I recall correctly. VERY Heavy, but they were left cocked in the safe for a couple of months, and that dropped the weight to about 18 pounds, then a little bit of jewler's rouge polished it up to about 13 pounds. Not bad, but very rough when it arrived.

I put approximately 3500 rounds through the pistol, and used it for about 2 years of occasional IPSC shooting (fun stuff, I hadn't taken my blackbadge yet at that point, I was just shooting indoors with the local crowd.)

One evening, I noted that it was not cycling properly....I unloaded, stripped it down to look at things, and noted that the frame rail on the right hand side was cracked.

I ceased use of the pistol at that time, contacted Marstar, and they had me return it to them for warranty replacement. When it came back, my Glock had already arrived, and I sold the replacement NP-34.

Been running the Glock ever since, and haven't really looked back.

If you must have a Sig type pistol, but cannot afford the real thing, then think about the NP-34.

NS
 
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