mine when new hit 4" left, about 3 inches high. After about 200 rounds it settled in about 2" high, and and inch left and stayed there. It groups ok, but the 45 norc i have shoots much better. It did tell me i liked the 1911 platform in 9, so i bought an STI sentry. giggle, there's a gun that shoots. That said, i don't regret the Np 29, and will have fun rebuilding it.