Norinco Olympia .22lr pistols for $299 worth it? Update got mine.

I have one of the TT Olympia Norcs from the 80s.

It is quality manufactured (the same as my early Norc M14 and 1911), functions well, and is accurate (relative considering the sights). I purchased mine used, and sadly it does not have the weights that came with it. It only had one mag, but I picked up two extra over the years at auctions. (Who says auctions are useless and overpriced. ;))

The fact that these rarely come up for sale over the past 10yrs now speaks to how owners like them.

I suspect these ones being sold now are new production and not old stock left over because the grips are cheaped out plastic. So beware if you are comparing them to the early 80s production like mine.

The little pistol is an exact copy of the Walther Olympia. If memory serves, it actually was used for Olympic competition and won a gold medal back in the 30s for the German team. [Someone set me straight on that please.]
You have to consider the fact that sights back then were mostly only a drift adjustable rear in a dovetail. Target sights, like on this pistol, consisted of an elevation adjustable front blade with a little set screw and slide adjustable rear leaf inside a base with adjustment screws on both sides to set windage adjustment. The front blade is narrow and the rear leaf cut out is narrow as well - not great compared to modern target sights. The Norinco is a true to form copy right down to the original sights. So don't blame Norinco for this, but rather that was the way sights were back in those days. I have a period Beretta Olympia that has similar sights which do not really perform like a target pistol but it is a collectible in original box with accessories.

The thing to bear in mind about Norinco guns is that they are made with real metal and not plastic or pot metal. They used to use real wood for stocks/grips as well and not plastic crap.

On a couple US websites there are guys who have done trigger jobs on these older Norc Olympias and put different sights on them and used them in competition. If you hold the gun down on a sandbag and test it on paper at 25yds with some decent SV ammo you should get surprising results. I used to be able to shoot mine freehand with suitable results, because the factory trigger on mine is pretty crisp and light without any creep.
 
Well that just makes me want one more. Although I think they might be 80's production with new grips. Reason being norinco has been following the U.N marking thing for a number of years and all new pistols I've seen from them have country code and year of import stamped on them. Looking closely at the pics on the website I see no such marks, leading me to believe they could be old stock. I could be wrong, but I believe the norinco m93s were also quite old when they were brought in, and they also have no such marks.
 
I have one of the TT Olympia Norcs from the 80s.

It is quality manufactured (the same as my early Norc M14 and 1911), functions well, and is accurate (relative considering the sights). I purchased mine used, and sadly it does not have the weights that came with it. It only had one mag, but I picked up two extra over the years at auctions. (Who says auctions are useless and overpriced. ;))

The fact that these rarely come up for sale over the past 10yrs now speaks to how owners like them.

I suspect these ones being sold now are new production and not old stock left over because the grips are cheaped out plastic. So beware if you are comparing them to the early 80s production like mine.

The little pistol is an exact copy of the Walther Olympia. If memory serves, it actually was used for Olympic competition and won a gold medal back in the 30s for the German team. [Someone set me straight on that please.]
You have to consider the fact that sights back then were mostly only a drift adjustable rear in a dovetail. Target sights, like on this pistol, consisted of an elevation adjustable front blade with a little set screw and slide adjustable rear leaf inside a base with adjustment screws on both sides to set windage adjustment. The front blade is narrow and the rear leaf cut out is narrow as well - not great compared to modern target sights. The Norinco is a true to form copy right down to the original sights. So don't blame Norinco for this, but rather that was the way sights were back in those days. I have a period Beretta Olympia that has similar sights which do not really perform like a target pistol but it is a collectible in original box with accessories.

The thing to bear in mind about Norinco guns is that they are made with real metal and not plastic or pot metal. They used to use real wood for stocks/grips as well and not plastic crap.

On a couple US websites there are guys who have done trigger jobs on these older Norc Olympias and put different sights on them and used them in competition. If you hold the gun down on a sandbag and test it on paper at 25yds with some decent SV ammo you should get surprising results. I used to be able to shoot mine freehand with suitable results, because the factory trigger on mine is pretty crisp and light without any creep.

I think you might be right about current production, definitely some differences in markings and some subtle differences in the older pistols vs what Marsham is showing.
https://www.austriaarms.com/used_we...nd_,22_magnum/3821/norinco_tt_olympia,_.22lr/
 
I called Marstar around 20 years ago to see if they could get me one of these - I suppose the new owners finally cleaned up the shop! So I ordered one today. I’ve got a Walther Olympia made in 1940 and I’m interested in comparing the two. The Norinco gets you the experience without the search and $$$ to find an original and you can shoot it without worrying about decreasing any collector value. If it breaks (it won’t), send it back or buy another and keep the first for parts.
 
Solid pass for me.
I should have bought the Woodsman clone many years ago when they were plentiful and inexpensive.
Oh well.
 
While looking on YouTube for info on the pistol, there were several videos about them.
An interesting one about how a mag for a Model 41 will fit. Only requires a small
notch cut in it for the mag catch to match the Olympia catch then it works 100%.
I realize that model 41 mags are not cheap but it is one way to get extra mags.
 
I hope the Chinese Woodsman comes back too. There’s lots of affordable replicas Norinco could make for me - what’s taking so long?
 
New owners? Didn't know that. They decided to not honor their veteran discount when I tried to order a while back. Never was a problem before and johnone wasn't the friendliest.

I called Marstar around 20 years ago to see if they could get me one of these - I suppose the new owners finally cleaned up the shop! So I ordered one today. I’ve got a Walther Olympia made in 1940 and I’m interested in comparing the two. The Norinco gets you the experience without the search and $$$ to find an original and you can shoot it without worrying about decreasing any collector value. If it breaks (it won’t), send it back or buy another and keep the first for parts.
 
While looking on YouTube for info on the pistol, there were several videos about them.
An interesting one about how a mag for a Model 41 will fit. Only requires a small
notch cut in it for the mag catch to match the Olympia catch then it works 100%.
I realize that model 41 mags are not cheap but it is one way to get extra mags.

This isn't surprising, considering that the design of the Model 41 was derived from the Olympia.

After WWII, the Olympia was manufactured by Haemmerli and the 208/212/215 family of pistols were likewise an evolution from the Olympia.
 
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