Norinco over Para

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I just have purchased a Norinco 1911a1, I have a para ssp. The Para shoots well, but I was horrified at all the MIM ( meatal injected Mold ) Parts. The frame on a Para is Cast, the Norinco is Milled.

The hammer, Mag release,grip safty,slide stop, disconect is MIM , The main spring housing is plastic, the trigger is plastic ( carbon fiber my ass ) plastic .

the Paras finish is Like paint and chips like paint to. I will admit the barrel is sweet, fully supported ramped and forged to boot. All and all , a good shotter but so is a glock and glocks are a soulles #### load of plastic in my opion.

The Norinco is all milled steel, And I liked the blued finish better. The fame to slide fit was just as good as my para. now the Para has nicer sights , full lengh guide rod, sweet grips, but all that aside at 3 times the price. well its not 3 times the gun.

Now call me nuts but I find these new manufactures have truly strayed away from what John browing original rendured . A rock solid cavalry pistol, to be subject to the mistreatment of soilders in the field, with this in mind be reliable under all conditions, clean , dirty,muddy, cold, hot, over lubed, un lubed, etc and with tolerences that allowed the gun to work properly as it was designed. with that in mind I think the 1911a1 norinco wins .

go figure?
 
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That's a great observation. Attempts at modernizing and creating cheap manufacturing have strayed way off from what the 1911 originally was.
I love my glock but when I get my next 1911 I may go ASIAN!
 
Stand by for the "in the long run, cheap is expensive" guy to appear. I think he sniffs out pro-Norinco threads from miles off.

x2 on the Nork 1911A-1.
 
I have the NP29, and its a pretty decent gun for $350. I have no worries about shooting the piss out of it. Refined.....no so much, but it's $350.
 
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Pier said:
I just have purchased a Norinco 1911a1, I have a para ssp. The Para shoots well, but I was horrified at all the MIM ( meatal injected Mold ) Parts. The frame on a Para is Cast, the Norinco is Milled.

The hammer, Mag release,grip safty,slide stop, disconect is MIM , The main spring housing is plastic, the trigger is plastic ( carbon fiber my ass ) plastic .

the Paras finish is Like paint and chips like paint to. I will admit the barrel is sweet, fully supported ramped and forged to boot. All and all , a good shotter but so is a glock and glocks are a soulles s**t load of plastic in my opion.

The Norinco is all milled steel, And I liked the blued finish better. The fame to slide fit was just as good as my para. now the Para has nicer sights , full lengh guide rod, sweet grips, but all that aside at 3 times the price. well its not 3 times the gun.

Now call me nuts but I find these new manufactures have truly strayed away from what John browing original rendured . A rock solid cavalry pistol, to be subject to the mistreatment of soilders in the field, with this in mind be reliable under all conditions, clean , dirty,muddy, cold, hot, over lubed, un lubed, etc and with tolerences that allowed the gun to work properly as it was designed. with that in mind I think the 1911a1 norinco wins .

go figure?
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"Norc fans have never owned good guns, near as I can tell."-CGN Bartledan
http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1187399&postcount=6

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I was with the poster PIER when we were comparing the two guns - and his post is based on what took place there.

While not a fan of things Chinese regarding firearms, I must admit I'm coming around in a big way.

If I had to replace my M1911A1, the closest, truest and best valued gun seems to be the Norinco. This is not easy for me to say.
 
I have a Para SSP-SE1, it is a good gun, wickedly accurate but I have had an issue with one MIM part.

I am taking a long look at the Rock Island Armory 1911's built by Armscor in the Philippines and imported by Arms East. My wife's family own several of the Armscor 1911's in the Philippines and I have been impressed by them. Also, at least in the US, RIA seems to have good customer support.
 
Here's my Norinco 1911-A1

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tenexx said:
I have a Para SSP-SE1, it is a good gun, wickedly accurate but I have had an issue with one MIM part.

I am taking a long look at the Rock Island Armory 1911's built by Armscor in the Philippines and imported by Arms East. My wife's family own several of the Armscor 1911's in the Philippines and I have been impressed by them. Also, at least in the US, RIA seems to have good customer support.
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Armscor also makes the Tanfoglio 1911....Freedom Ventures has them at a good price. And the STI Spartan is also an Armscor gun....can be found at Armco.
 
tenexx said:
I have a Para SSP-SE1, it is a good gun, wickedly accurate but I have had an issue with one MIM part.

I am taking a long look at the Rock Island Armory 1911's built by Armscor in the Philippines and imported by Arms East. My wife's family own several of the Armscor 1911's in the Philippines and I have been impressed by them. Also, at least in the US, RIA seems to have good customer support.
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Those guns are also full of MIM (and cast) parts. If you want to a MIM/casting-free pistol, you generally have two options: a) high-end custom or semi-custom guns (i.e. Les Baer and Ed Brown), where the lack of cost-cutting measures is readily reflected by the price, or strangely enough, Norinco (not because the Chinese care all that much about fitting top quality parts in their $300 pistols but because they haven't yet figured out how to make MIM gun components and are still using old equipment sold to them by Colt in the 80's).
 
If you want to see something truly amazing happen to that Norc blueing, polish the gun with Flitz metal polish (you can get it at most "House of Knives" stores). I have a Norc Commander that was worked over by Gunnar and frankly, it does everything well, and the only non-Nork parts on the gun are the Novak sights and the safety. It has a 3.5 pound trigger, feeds everything, has a factory beavertail (not pretty, works perfectly) and shoots like a much more expensive gun. In fact other than having "bling value" I can't see what any other 1911 could have that this gun doesn't - but then I buy guns to shoot them.
 
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