Norinco type 97 rifle is in Vancouver

Just curious, but why is that people are #####ing about the price of these, but they're willing to drop double that on a Tavor?

Becasuse there is a fundamental gap in the market expectation - the military price of TAVOR is about doubled that of the 450USD price tag from Norinco. However, the market put much more premium on Israelis products than Chinese. So the price of TAVOR could be much higher(same as swiss arms) than what it will normally be. In other words, the market doesn't see any significant values added feature in the type 97 that, using other Chinese products as reference, to warrant for the added price. Becasue Chinese product is not premium as seen by the market, the attempt to copy the price structure of TAVOR or Swiss Arms will backfire because the market won't support premium price when they do not recognize it as a premium brand.


On a more personal level, I see the Type 97 as a second choice to other designs due to some deficiencies. In order for me to live with these issues, it gotta be cheaper!! On the other, I do see how the price arrives to 1450-from a break-even analysis it probably makes sense to go after this approach if one is uncertain about the longevity of product availability, and you know some guys have to have them right now. However, it can be also a marketing strategy to build up the reputation of the type 97 as a premium rifle. Swiss arms and TAVOR are quite sucessful at that, but they do build good stuff in the first place. Of course, this strategy can also backfire if you do not have exclusive right to the product, or that the factory does not set up a Minimum Retail price policy. What will happen again is the M305 scenario....your competitor will butt in. However, if you expect a competitor to pull volume on you, you will want to go in and reap the first dib by going high margin if you know you will be out of the market in a minute.
 
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My lips are sealed;)
I am interested to see who "the second importer" mentioned in the CSSA magazine will do with this - I hope that this boogyman can match the price of AR180.





I am also a bit surprised by the cost. I was thinking they would perhaps go for around $1200.
 
Im also surprised at the cost. I was thinking a grand, or close to it. Its norinco and its coming out of the cheap mass production paradise of china. I mean the AR clones are selling for 600$ why cant we get these for a grand? I guess i will hold out until someone else brings them in for cheaper and also....unrestricted.
 
Do not be surprised by the cost. Lever arms is the home of the 700 dollar M14 and other assorted overpriced goodies. If another dealer picks up the 97 I am sure it will go for quite a bit cheaper...
 
"...why is that people are #####ing about the price of these, but they're willing to drop double that on a Tavor?"


I have always wanted a Bull Pup semi auto rifle. I've test fired the Tavor, and last weekend I handled the Norc. From my experience with the Tavor ... the test drive of the Tavor managed to live up to my expectations regarding ergonomics and trigger pull .... I "might" buy a Tavor someday .
BUT,
at the introductory price for the TAVOR, I can buy ...
TWO or THREE AR 15s
about EIGHT M-14s
probably FIVE Glocks
one hell of a nice ocean kayak
TWO great mountain bikes
three weeks for two in Puerta Vallarta
etc., etc. ....
you get the idea.

Hard to justify the Tavor, just as a play toy.

But I might buy a Norc BP, when the non-restricted ones come up, just for the novelty.

PS: The Norc optical sights suck BIG TIME. and are probably harder to swap out than the Tavor. AND, the quality of the NORC is definitely not up to Israeli standards, but stilll ... it IS a Canuckistan legal BP, and it should function as reliably as most other Norc products.

As usual,
with any opinion expressed on the internet,
your personal mileage may vary.
[;{)
LAZ
 
Not only the price of the Tavor but the whole situation...

With the Canadian $ as strong as the US$, can't see why we have to pay as much as this. If the US pay 750$ for an AR, why should we pay 1400$ ??
I agree for the paper work and import fees but come on....

I might be wrong (not #####ing against the importer cause i am not in their situation) but i would be a lot more willing to buy if price were lower and much fair.
 
I don't know why is everyone #####ing about the 97:confused::confused:
Forcasting market prices, complaining about chinese manufacturing and prices.
Comparing with the Tavor in terms of quality and price. I mean come on. You don't like it..don't buy it and stop whining.

It might be expensive for a Norc but at least it made it to Canada and there is an option for another black rifle like it or not. Someone made the effort to make it happen.
 
http://www.realsword.com.hk/video/97001.WMV

Video.. Nice...
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I don't know why this gun makes such a big deal. .223, there're tonnes of guns in this cal out there, and each one looks better or shoots better than this type 97. Maybe it suits those SWAT wannabes?
 
People are expecting a cheap non-restricted .223 in the 1000 bucks range. The only thing in that range is AR180B and it is honestly not a very sturdy rifle.
 
Nah. I'd like to rent it from someone and try it out, but can't really see the attraction. In fact I think the lack of rental opportunities in Canada (at ranges) really restricts non-connected shooting folk from "trying before buying" etc.
 
I was going to buy non-rest if it dint pass 1500$, so obviously this fails that. And we all know deallers try for more money for non-restricted versions so I dont even want to know what that will be now.
 
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