Norinco vs Norinco

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I am about to buy my second handgun. My first was a Norinco M-93 (Woodsman copy) and I rather like it a lot. It was cheap (I'm of Scottish descent, so yes, that's very important) :D it's quite accurate and it's very cheap to feed. (again, the Scottish roots shine through) :redface:

Since I don't ever plan on taking my handguns to the US, and because I'm cheap... :p I'm looking at getting a second Norinco. For what you pay for them, they seem to be quite a good product.

So here is the dilemma:

Norinco NP-20 or Norinco NP-34? :confused:

The NP-34 has a great namesake, the Sig P228. I love the Sig P228 (mostly because it looks a lot like what Jack uses on 24) :p It is short, compact, is DA/SA and has a de-cocker. I can also probably find aftermarket parts for it if I were so inclined. (I am not)

The NP-20 is a simplified version of the Type 77 which Chinese Police use. It's not a copy of anything. (which in itself is kind of appealing) It is a straight blow back and thus has a fixed barrel which I hear makes for an accurate gun. It is SA only. (I suppose I could live with that though) It is bigger and heavier than the NP-34 which would make it a bit more difficult to carry if we were ever so fortunate to be granted CCW here in Canada. But I'm not counting on that happening before I have enough money saved up to buy another pistol so I'm not all that concerned about it. The extra size and weight may make it a bit easier to shoot. But I don't really know how much of a difference this would make as I've never owned a 9mm pistol before, let a lone several to compare.

Anyway, I've probably rambled on enough.

Let's hear what YOU have to say....

Matthew
 
Get the Sig Clone, then you can get parts from more than one place (I'm not real sure there is one place for the Chinese Military pistol) parts do wear and break (recoil springs should go every 5,000 rounds) Besides it's a copy of the issue pistol of the SAS (and the best of the Sigs IMHO)
 
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Well, if the Scot in you is riding shotgun on the wallet then you won't do better than one of the $99 Tokarev clones from www.canadaammo.com .

Otherwise I'd be looking at one of the CZ copies from Marstar. I noticed that their website is showing a couple of options as "in stock".

A lot will depend on your hands of course but for my large to X-large glove size meathooks the Sig fit well as did the CZ that I finally bought (Shadow). But the Sig did seem more blocky up high and FWIW I found that it had quite a bit of kick for a metal pistol. Later on I read references to the barrel line being higher than some other options so this may well have had something to do with the issue. In any event I went with the CZ and could not be happier. So my own suggestion is one of the CZ 75 or 85 options..... or the 1911 in 9mm but good luck finding one. They seem to be as popular as chocolate bunny eggs at Easter.

Lots of happy 1911 Norinco customers for the .45ACP guns but the ammo cost if you don't reload is hellish. You can also almost shave with some of the corners on the controls. Plan on some dubbing down and re-blueing if you go with one. Other than this small glitch the two I saw in real life recently looked just fine on the outside and the slides of both the all blue police model and the two tone were nice and slick without any noticable rattle.
 
NP-34 if you must go 9mm.

Otherwise, the NP-58 .40 cal from Can-Am.

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I have owned np34 and now I have a np20. They both shoot well and great for the money. NP34 look much nicer and single action is smooth. However, the double action is terrible. I trade my np34 cause the aluminum frame is pretty fragile, got some dents after shooting for a while. For np20, the gun is robust and strong, a good quality steel gun. With adjustable rear sight, the price is hard to beat. The magazine is cool too. The only drawback is the trigger. REALLY TERRIBLE! But I used to it and still find it fun to shoot.
 
I grabbed the pictures from Marstar's website and did a size comparison using Photoshop to adjust them to actual size and I was surprised how much of a size difference there was. That, along with the other recommendations here, sealed the deal for me. I'm sure the NP-20 is a good gun too, but I have an affinity for smaller pistols. Must be my lack of need to compensate for anything... :D

As for the CZ recommendations, thanks, but again, they are just a little big for my liking.

Thanks all!

Matthew
 
:D Ha ha! You guys are hilarious. :p

Yeah yeah, I know... Norincos are just a pile of crap... Well, all I can say is I am thankful that there are pistols available to people like me who can't (or won't) ;) spend a ton of money to get into the sport.

I would think that you all would be happy to see another pistol owner to add to the ranks and help fight for the cause... but I guess you are only welcomed in if you shell out $1500 for an original. :rolleyes:

:wave:

Matthew
 
I just recieved a Norinco NP-22, the Sig 226 clone. I haven't shot it yet so I can't give a review on it. If you are going into battle, buy the Sig Sauer, if your going to the range then buy the Norinco. Don't listen to the gun snobs, they mean well but we don't all have there money:) The Norinco with a decent set of Hogue rubber grips is what I am going to try, consider it.

Best wishes. Steve
 
I have the 1911, CZ and Sig clones. The most accurate is 1911. It is outstanding.

Boththe CZ and Sig are more accurate than I expected (a 40 and a 9mm). All 3 now have Hogue grips and are much better for it.

The SIG clone had the best trigger, out of the box. My range guests all wind up shooting the Sig 228 clone as their favourite.
 
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This is akin to asking "which pile of dung should I step into?" Toss a coin. :p
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You said it.

(again, the Scottish roots shine through) wtf
Whats with the stand up routine?
Unlike you I have a Scottish birth certificate and some pride.
You shouldn't blame your heritage for turning you into a tight ass. Weak. Sad.
 
I like steel pistols so the Model 54 in 7.62x25mm/9mm is a better choice as it is robust and can shoot two calibers (which are both cheap as hell) with a simple barrel swap.
As for the tiny sights, I put paint on the front sight and rear. I was inspired by the painted post on the rear sight of the SIG 226 I handled at a gun shop.


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