Nosler disapointment

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So i was reloading some Nosler Accubonds and noticed they were going in the case too easy. Have this happen with the odd bullet before but really didn't care since they were all plinking rounds.

Took out my dial calipers and ID of the .308 case was just the tiniest bit under .308. Measured the bullets and they were .307

Well got the LFCD out and crimped them. Going to shoot them and see what happens.

Somewhat disappointed but Sh it happens
 
The last batches of them that I loaded up were 225 grain in .338" and 250 grain in 9.3 mm - for both rifles was circa 1" 3 shot groups at 100 yards, so I did not think much was out of order - but I never did actually measure any to know how close they were for sizing. Good luck with the crimping solution - as someone told me - "holes on target do not lie" - so that tells you whether there is / was a problem and whether it is / was resolved or not.

If you subscribe to Richard Lee's view of things, I would be expecting an ID of around .306" in your sized case neck, before seating the bullet?
 
Potashminer said:
The last batches of them that I loaded up were 225 grain in .338" and 250 grain in 9.3 mm - for both rifles was circa 1" 3 shot groups at 100 yards, so I did not think much was out of order - but I never did actually measure any to know how close they were for sizing. Good luck with the crimping solution - as someone told me - "holes on target do not lie" - so that tells you whether there is / was a problem and whether it is / was resolved or not.

If you subscribe to Richard Lee's view of things, I would be expecting an ID of around .306" in your sized case neck, before seating the bullet?
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I might have more than 1 issue
 
The only time this has ever happened to me (for .308 and 7mm) was when using Federal brass....too soft and gets tossed.
As you said, there could be a lot more going on here (die issue?). Nosler Accubonds (for plinking?) are good quality bullets.
 
Bassmaster said:
The only time this has ever happened to me (for .308 and 7mm) was when using Federal brass....too soft and gets tossed.
As you said, there could be a lot more going on here (die issue?). Nosler Accubonds (for plinking?) are good quality bullets.
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No, accubonds are not for plinking. So far I have only reloaded for plinking. Mainly using cast bullets and some fmjs

Currently in process of developing hunting loads for my 30-06, .308, and 30-30.

My remote cabin will be set up enough for next fall that I can put some serious time in hunting.

And yes, Federal brass. Did a little testing and will make up an adapter for my lee 30-30 collet die so I can do my .308 cases.

Might also see if I have better brass, think most of what I have has crimped primers. Time to start sorting through my stash
 
yomomma said:
No, accubonds are not for plinking. So far I have only reloaded for plinking. Mainly using cast bullets and some fmjs

Currently in process of developing hunting loads for my 30-06, .308, and 30-30.

My remote cabin will be set up enough for next fall that I can put some serious time in hunting.

And yes, Federal brass. Did a little testing and will make up an adapter for my lee 30-30 collet die so I can do my .308 cases.

Might also see if I have better brass, think most of what I have has crimped primers. Time to start sorting through my stash
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Any mil-spec brass I've used with crimped primers are well worth the effort to remove the crimp...Federal is garbage for reloading in my humble opinion. Just sayin...
 
Bassmaster said:
Any mil-spec brass I've used with crimped primers are well worth the effort to remove the crimp...Federal is garbage for reloading in my humble opinion. Just sayin...
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Is "dangerous" to imply "always" and "never" - I have a pile of brass - head stamped "FC 223 Rem" - some with no dot, some with 3 dots and some with 5 dots - all with crimped primers. I have not loaded many, more than two or three times - can not say that I have found them to be deficient - but then our need is simply for them to go "bang" for our grandson's practicing. I have been using 24.0 grains Benchmark powder, Fed 205 primers and 55 grain V-Max bullets.
 
yomomma said:
No, accubonds are not for plinking. So far I have only reloaded for plinking. Mainly using cast bullets and some fmjs

Currently in process of developing hunting loads for my 30-06, .308, and 30-30.

My remote cabin will be set up enough for next fall that I can put some serious time in hunting.

And yes, Federal brass. Did a little testing and will make up an adapter for my lee 30-30 collet die so I can do my .308 cases.

Might also see if I have better brass, think most of what I have has crimped primers. Time to start sorting through my stash
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This used to be a fairly common occurrence. Not so much anymore.

I have a 30 cal expander ball that I have polished to .306in diameter to take care of such things.

I had to use it last month on some 165 gr Sierra SPBT bullets that I was loading up to settle down a 30-06, before developing a load with Hornady Inter Bonds.

If you have a spare expander ball on hand, I know you can polish this to the diameter you require. They used to be cheap.
 
Dogleg said:
Are the bullets actually loose in the necks; or are you just concerned they might be?
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I can actually push them through.

Had some time last night and pulled out my calipers again.

Measured the cases and half my cases were affected. Verified with a bullet. These were all processed at the same time.

Scratching my head

Mandrel is .3065 measured with my micrometer
 
yomomma said:
I can actually push them through.

Had some time last night and pulled out my calipers again.

Measured the cases and half my cases were affected. Verified with a bullet. These were all processed at the same time.

Scratching my head

Mandrel is .3065 measured with my micrometer
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It might not help, but I had a bullet retension issue that had me had me completely baffled for a couple days. It was a custom STW that I’d bought with brass, bullets and bushing dies with a crazy amount of bushings. There was literally no amount of ne k tension that I could apply that would grip 180 Bergers. Finally I just tried a different box of bullets from my own stash and that was the end of the problem. There was a barely imperceptible taper on the bullets and there came a point where the deeper the bullets were seated the looser they got.
 
No matter how good a calliper is, its still the wrong tool for precision inside measuring a small round hole. Its a square peg (blade) in a round hole kind of thing. A blade mic is the job for that; unless you want to precisely measure slightly wrong.
 
yomomma said:
I can actually push them through.

Had some time last night and pulled out my calipers again.

Measured the cases and half my cases were affected. Verified with a bullet. These were all processed at the same time.

Scratching my head

Mandrel is .3065 measured with my micrometer
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Just a thought here, if only some cases are affected, check the neck thickness. Some may have thinner walls at the neck, and not be sizing down enough inside for the expander ball to work properly. Hope you get it figured out....catnip
 
yomomma said:
So i was reloading some Nosler Accubonds and noticed they were going in the case too easy. Have this happen with the odd bullet before but really didn't care since they were all plinking rounds.

Took out my dial calipers and ID of the .308 case was just the tiniest bit under .308. Measured the bullets and they were .307

Well got the LFCD out and crimped them. Going to shoot them and see what happens.

Somewhat disappointed but Sh it happens
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Questions come up # 1 do you anneal your brass, #2 what brand and model of dies?, #3 do you full length size or neck and shoulder size? #4 Were all the bullets in that lot the exact same size diameter?
 
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