Nosler Partition vs Hornady
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I have never seen it Peter but know now there is quite a price difference between the two.
I wish the partition had a low drag, ballistic tip option!
Both Hornady and Nosler work fine
But to ME, the "pucker factor" would be ALLOT less, if I were using a partition, at close range (50 yards or less) in a fast cart. ( 300 win or larger case). Especially if the quarry is a Brown Bear, or some other dangerous game animal. IMO
Both Hornady and Nosler work fine
But to ME, the "pucker factor" would be ALLOT less, if I were using a partition, at close range (50 yards or less) in a fast cart. ( 300 win or larger case). Especially if the quarry is a Brown Bear, or some other dangerous game animal. IMO
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Sorry, Bill, I have seen the difference!!
A premium bullet is one which is constructed well enough that it will penetrate through heavy bone and other tissue to reach the vitals from any reasonable angle without disintegrating or shedding it's core completely.
I have had a couple of dramatic failures using the Interlocks when I tried to drive them at high velocity and hit bone.
One, a 270, 140 BTSP @ 3000 M.V. completely disintegrated on hitting a Deer's rib, with no part of the bullet making it in to the cavity. Fortunately, a quick follow-up did him in. If he had got out of sight quickly, I am sure he would have been lost. [Initial shot was 75 yards]
Another 180 IL from a 30-338 at 3100 fps M.V. struck a calf moose on the shoulder blade, and disintegrated, not penetrating the blade at all. It knocked the guy down, but he was up immediately with a saucer size shallow wound on that shoulder. Again, a second shot thwarted his escape. [Initial shot was 110 yards]
I know from personal experience with Partitions [100+ head of game shot] that both those incidents would have been one-shot deals.
I have shot at least 5 moose quartering toward me that took a 180 Partition right on the shoulder bone and penetrated completely through the lungs. Recovered a couple, others exited.
Most of the time, the Hornadys work fine. But with two failures for me, they are now relegated to practice and low velocity rounds.
REgards, Eagleye.
I love .338 cal 275 grain A Frames. Don't like the price though. It is hard to beat the Partition as it does just about everything well. Don't think there is another bullet out there that opens up as well and still penetrates as reliably. I agree that the A Frame really does open up though and is as tough as woodpecker lips. They really foul barrels too.
Sorry we will agree to disagree then.
I have never had a failure....ever. As far as I'm concerned 95% of the hype around premium bullets is marketing. IMHO you are paying through the nose for what is called "premium".
I won't disagree that Nosler makes a good lead pill, but there very few circumstances where I would concede you need to use them. The only rifle I use a partition in is my 7mm rem mag and that is because it likes them. My .30's and 338's get a pretty steady diet of Interlocks, Gamekings, and even some Rem Cor Lokts (300 savage).
Never really drank the Nosler or Barnes Kool-Aid.
I just don't see it.
As with most things, I agree with Eagleeye!
I send lots of interlocks downrange but haven't hunted with them for years, and will not in most of the sub .375 calibers.
I am sure they will work fine for broadside deer and yotes, but I like a bullet that works all the time, not just when something goes right.
People like to bring up "cost" as a statement against premium bullets, but it is the most ludicrous argument I have ever heard.
You will spend far more money in gas to go hunting than you will in the difference between premium and non premium bullets.
"Oh, I spent $$ on gas and my whole vacation time trying to nail a buck but he was quartering towards me and the bullet blew up on his shoulder and I lost him /or I didn't' take the shot because I wanted broadisde" is not an issue using good bullets.
Use good bullets. Take any shot you want. You will spend about $20-30 more per year. Isn't that cheap insurance?
I send lots of interlocks downrange but haven't hunted with them for years, and will not in most of the sub .375 calibers.
I am sure they will work fine for broadside deer and yotes, but I like a bullet that works all the time, not just when something goes right.
People like to bring up "cost" as a statement against premium bullets, but it is the most ludicrous argument I have ever heard.
You will spend far more money in gas to go hunting than you will in the difference between premium and non premium bullets.
"Oh, I spent $$ on gas and my whole vacation time trying to nail a buck but he was quartering towards me and the bullet blew up on his shoulder and I lost him /or I didn't' take the shot because I wanted broadisde" is not an issue using good bullets.
Use good bullets. Take any shot you want. You will spend about $20-30 more per year. Isn't that cheap insurance?
+100 Gatehouse!!!
Truly a lame argument [the extra cost]
A premium bullet is like an insurance policy.
You may not always need it, but when you do, it is sooo comforting to have.!!
Eagleye.
I agree with the cost argument, but see no need for premium bullets in, for lack of a better phrase, non-premiu
m calibers. Push the bullet fast enough and you will need that extra margin, but at speeds less then around 2900 fps, not really. - dan
m calibers. Push the bullet fast enough and you will need that extra margin, but at speeds less then around 2900 fps, not really. - dan
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Yes and you will save a few bucks...err I mean dollars too!
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Also, I'm using Interlocks this year. I have a box of partitions but didn't have time to work up a load. They should work just as well as the Winchester Super-X of S&B bullets. I'm thinking somewhere along the line of 50-60% retention out of a 308 @ 50 yards and .650 inch diameter.
I read an Outdoor Life article showing what a Sierra Prohunter will do at 100 yards, they balloon like crazy and shed weight like an aids patient.
And that I will agree with.
As for $40,000 dollar pickup trucks and $10,000 dollar quads.......to0 cheap to own them. To0 cheap to buy a $40.00 box of ammo as well. I load my own.
I spend my money on licenses and gas for hunting.
If you think a 210 partition is going to make all that much difference over a 225 grain Interlock fired at a poor angle on a moose go ahead and spend the money.
But what do I know....I only have about a 100 posts.
For myself nothing beat 165 SST Interlock for stopping power, out of my 308 at a tad under 2900 fps nothing on the continent will get away ( would take my 300 mag with the same bullet for the big bears ), 5 years ago when i start using them, i saw the difference... My 0.02 cents... JP.
I find it very strange that no matter how much someone likes a bullet it is not long before someone has a opposite opinion/experience with the same bullet. Away back I had heard about partitions so tried them on white tail in my 270 win. The 150gr went throught the upper neck and did not expand. The 130 gr was a shoulder shot and only penitrated half way through the dear,front core missing(both dead deer).I have tried many bullets since and have never had confidence in the nosler PT since.
