Not a 22 250

"A .22 LR will kill a dog at ranges you can call them to, so I dismiss that argument as well. I've heard guys say a coyote can stop way out there, but from my limited experiance, I've had them almost run me over, chasing the sound of food. The trick isn't to having a rifle that will deliver a shot like a cruise missle, rather it's when and where you set up. A caller in the trees will get a coyote closer than a caller in the open field. Or a caller sihouetted on a hill top will be less likely to get a dog in close than a caller in front of a bush."

:bangHead: Wow! this info is based on how many days calling? how much experience?

So after calling upwards of 2000 coyotes per year, year after year, I've been doing wrong!!! Wow!!

Sorry, I would never set up anywhere except the open, usually on a hilltop if I can, and i would never use a 22 unless he was caught in a trap.:bangHead:
 
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223 wssm. who has shot it? killed with it? results?
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It should be very accurate; I've seen some nice groups from a Browning 223WSSM at 300 yds. But recoil and noise will be noticeable, and as others have said, feeding it will be expensive and the barrel may not last as long as non WSSM calibers (admittedly, still some debate out there about that point).
 
why no 22 250?

I discounted the 22 250 only cause I ahve used a fair bit. I don't have a lot of access to other guys guns to be tryin them hunting so I usually play the buy and sell and trade, and piss and moan that sold this, and kept that etc.

I am not a big time varmint/coyote hunter, so I like to try different guns and setups quite a bit. I threw out the 22 250 only to try something else. Maybe be able to post an oppinion based on fact here, rather than based on second and third hand pseudoknowledge:D that seems to be everywhere on the internet. (does not apply to this thread. does it:D :confused: :D

as for barrel life and cost to feed. i don't really get concerned too much with that. al of the fast ones like their barrel linings for breakfast, but I won't put the enough down the pipe to have cot and barrel bother me too much.
 
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I am not a big time varmint/coyote hunter, so I like to try different guns and setups quite a bit. I threw out the 22 250 only to try something else.
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Nothing wrong with that. :) Wish you had considered the .204 Ruger, though, if only to help me convince the local suppliers to carry it. :p
 
even if you only put ten boxes of ammo through your rifle a year, Id think within five years your barrel will show signs of heavy throat erosion. Shoot any less than that and I'd doubt you could shoot it well enough to take advantage of the extra range a cartridge like the 223wssm gives you over something like a 22-250

my .02

let us know how it shoots
 
Unfortunately, we're limited to centrefire calibers of .225 or less for coyotes here in Newfoundland, unless you happen across one while big game hunting. :(
 
Hi

Just to Clarify. From Newfoundland, was in Grande prairie, now have moved to Regina so the 225 law back home can't touch me!! YIPPPEEEE!

As for the gun and the barrel and the use.

As with any gun like this, barrel life is a concern.

Like I said I'm not a huge coyote hunter, nor a huge range guy, so the barrel worries aren't really bothering me that much.

I find that inside 300 yrds, with the amount of shooting I do, I am comfortable. Were I too start taking on the 400 yrds plus, then ya, more time at the range, barrel toasted in about 3 or 4 years.(quite likely less)

I am a goose/duck hunter before all, but like to break it up a bit and get out in the bush. I'm sure this rifle will fill my need, and if not, at least I know first hand.

Thanks for feedback
 
sealhunter said:
Hi
Just to Clarify. From Newfoundland, was in Grande prairie, now have moved to Regina so the 225 law back home can't touch me!! YIPPPEEEE!
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Oh, now you tell us. Good luck finding any seals in Regina, sealhunter. :p ;)
 
How did those guys trapped in the ice get on after.
I saw a bit of it on the news.

I saw an anti sealing group on facebook today and it was so incorrect and biased, (of course)

It really bothers me when they say that the industry makes up less than 1%
of Newfoundlands economy.

I'm sure selling goat cheese doesn't make up the biggest part of our economy, but if it makes up a significant portion of a number of peoples incomes, then you can't just say it's negligible cause it's not a big part of the provinces economy.

Much less this was a group called"Texans against the seal Hunt"

None of them have any first hand or even direct 2nd hand knowledge.

They also say that the furs are used as extra money cause the fisherman in Newfoundland are making more than ever!

Ya that's it. We're making a killing and move to Alberta by the thousands to buy cottages!
Talk sense.

My Rant
 
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Woah!!!! wayy bigger difference than i thought. thanks! I though it was like a .22lr but a bit bigger. lmao.
 
Redfrog said:
"A .22 LR will kill a dog at ranges you can call them to, so I dismiss that argument as well. I've heard guys say a coyote can stop way out there, but from my limited experiance, I've had them almost run me over, chasing the sound of food. The trick isn't to having a rifle that will deliver a shot like a cruise missle, rather it's when and where you set up. A caller in the trees will get a coyote closer than a caller in the open field. Or a caller sihouetted on a hill top will be less likely to get a dog in close than a caller in front of a bush."

:bangHead: Wow! this info is based on how many days calling? how much experience?

So after calling upwards of 2000 coyotes per year, year after year, I've been doing wrong!!! Wow!!

Sorry, I would never set up anywhere except the open, usually on a hilltop if I can, and i would never use a 22 unless he was caught in a trap.:bangHead:
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Let me put it to you this way. The best instance that comes to mind was when I was bowhunting a few years back. I tried a bleat can call, and was just sitting comfortably next to a tree. I heard a rustling coming through the tall grass behind me, and was shocked when a coyote charged right past me, and stopped at ten yards on the deer trail in front of me. And when I say right past, I could have grabbed his tail. He payed no attention to me, only where he thought the sound came from. If i were in the open, he would have tried to pinpoint the exact spot. But with the dense tree's and grass, it would be impossible. Another instance in a similar area, I was on a high spot, but only had one tree to conceal me. And when I say conceal, I was sitting right smack in between the tree and him, under a few branches. Same deal, but I never shot. It was almost more satisfying when I stood up, and watched him spin 180 and hit the afterburners. 2000 a year? Pretty good I'd say. I would never imagine seeing that many, your obviously better than I could hope to be. But I would still trust a .22 at the ranges I seem to get them into. :wave:
 
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I have now been out shooting with my 223 wssm a few times and am completely satisfied.

I am a little less than 2 inches high at 100, a touch high at 200 and a touch low at 300.

Groups are great, and the rifle is a pleasure to shoot.

I had been contemplating weather it would be a keeper or not. IT IS!!

Next, 4200 Tactical 6- 24x, Right now, BSA 6-24x.

This weekend will be the weekend I see how the bullets perform on animals!!!
Will post pics.

I did seem to notice. in a few places I have been where there are hunters, shooters, etc. That not a lot were receptive to the calibre, almost dismissing it. Out of all those, just one had ever seen one before. :confused:
 
Good to hear sealhunter. I've got nothing at all against the wssm, just was concerned about the cost of ammo before I started handloading.

I really like the ballistics on paper, but I decided for me the 223rem was the way to go because I wanted to be able to shoot lots for cheap. :)
 
I picked up a Browning A-Bolt Medallion .223 WSSM last week. Had it to the range on Sunday, 1in. groups at 100yds. with factory 55gr. bullets. I must say I really like the gun, good fit, lite, and handles well. Waiting for dies to try some reloads.
 
I'd recommend sticking with the .223 or 22-250 if you're just going to hunt yotes. The wssm's are fast, but really expensive to shoot and I just can't justify that cost for a pelt. $6.99 / box vs $30?

The 25-06, .243 rifles are a good choice if you want a deer / varmint rifle but only if you're going to be doing some deer hunting. They'll do a little more damage to pelts but kill deer or antelope well.

Most of my yote rifles have been in .223 because of the cheap ammo. With the more limited supply of cheap surplus, the price gap has narrowed and I'd seriously consider the 22-250.


By the way, don't let these guys feed you too much BS. The FMJ is a great bullet for coyotes. It goes straight through if you don't hit a bone and leaves small holes on both sides. I shoot all my coyotes straight through the ears....zip.....very little blood and no holes in the pelts at all.;) Really, use the hollowpoints.
 
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Are FMJ's illegal for hunting or not. I have heard both it is and isn't.

I'm not a coyote hunter by any means. I'm a go out for w few weekends and hope for the best.
The cost of a pelt against cost of a bullet means little to me as I do not sell enough pelts to cover the coffee I drink while looking, much less my ammo and gas:D

At home in Newfoundland, and I guess out here, though I'm not as familiar. Bullet cost means a great deal to the sealhunters, as does the rifle cost, gas, etc.

My hunting ventures are recreartional at best.

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There`s nothing wrong with the 22-250 for coyotes out as far as 450 yards.
I use a 204 out to the same range. I`ve also shot them with a 222 and the 223. I myself would say the 204 or the 223 are my favorites and alot cheaper to reload for, less noise and on average are more pelt friendly.
When I`m not worried about saving the pelts I like to shoot them at 500 yards and farther with my 30-378 or the 338-378:evil:
 
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