Not an Enfield ... actually a ???

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As the thread title suggests, I've never seen an Enfield like this, it has the wrong bolt and no markings that would make me think it was.

BUT, in their infinite wisdom, the CFC has registered it as an Enfield :confused:

This is NOT a for sale ad, no matter what this gun turns out to be - it was given to me as a birthday present years ago (pre-registry), and I just really like the looks of it.

Details:
"#### on open" bolt
attached folding/locking bayonet - 4 flutes, 12" from muzzle to tip when in the "stick'em & stab'em" position
intergral top load magazine with dumpable floor plate
19 1/4" barrel (muzzle to receiver body)
No access hole/storage area in butt plate.
square notch in rear sight, front sight fully hooded
rear sight is marked from 1 to 10

matching numbers on Barrel, receiver & buttplate (Bolt is non-matching and has been replaced at some point.

Top of barrel is marked
D2
1953
BI 0430 (0430 serial is stamped on other parts as well.

most parts (pieces of bolt, various mounting brackets, and hardware) are stamped with the numner "02"

No other identifying marking that I can find. A couple very small proof stamps, but none that jump oput as distinctive enough to identify it by.

Not too worried about what it's worth as I have no intention of selling this ... BUT ... I really want to know what it is. Tried searching Google & here for D2 and I get more info on Bulldozers than rifles :(

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What do I have?
What caliber is it?
 
mosin nagant...my guess for calibre would be 7.62x54.

I don't own one but the gurus will chime in shortly.
 
Nice matching Hungarian M-44 carbine, those are getting hard to find now. Marking on receiver is 02 and not D2.
 
JP said:
Marking on receiver is 02 and not D2.
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You are correct!

Thanks all! Now I can start looking for ammo for it and see how it shoots. Bore looking pretty good, so I'm thinking it may be a fun gun to plink with.

Might even call the CFC and have my registration for it fixed :p or maybe wiat until it ends and have a "never registered" rifle :D
 
Yes, its a Hungarian in 7.62x54R, -- 02 was the Hungarian Code number, and not a whole lot of them around.
I managed to get a Hungarian and a Polish, Ciricle 11, both for $99.95 a few years ago from S.I.R. , when they were having a sell, before they were taken over by Calbela,s. Thats a Nice Rifle, IMagius !! --- a Keeper for Sure !! ------and sure as Hell , a far cry from any kind of Enfield, --- What a Bloody Joke, that registry is !!! ----- :)
 
An enfield?!?!? Wow, CFC=fail....

Fun gun to shoot, I have a Russian m44 that was gifted to me, just needed a firing pin, since getting one of those been having lots of fun.

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BAAAHAHAHAH they registered an M44 as an Enfield? I guess it's no worse than guys registering heat guns or nail guns...
 
The moment the Registry is dead, I'll post a scan of the slip, with the serial for this gun and Enfield clear as day in the Make field.

I knew it wasn't an Enfield when I registered it, but I didn't care either at the time. As long as I had a piece of paper witht he correct serial number, I was covered legally. Not my fault they couldn't figure out what it really was :D

A few minutes on Google has told me this should be a fun rifle to shoot!

One thing I need to ask though ... Why do so many shoot with the bayonet extended? Are there zombies out there I'm not seeing :p

One thing I shoudl ask though before shooting it ... with no ammo in it, and the bolt closed and firing pin "primed" (ready to fire), there is almost no effort needed to open the bolt. It seems that it is almost like gravity on the bolt handle alone is all that is keeping it closed. Is this normal?
 
IMagius said:
The moment the Registry is dead, I'll post a scan of the slip, with the serial for this gun and Enfield clear as day in the Make field.

I knew it wasn't an Enfield when I registered it, but I didn't care either at the time. As long as I had a piece of paper witht he correct serial number, I was covered legally. Not my fault they couldn't figure out what it really was :D

A few minutes on Google has told me this should be a fun rifle to shoot!

One thing I need to ask though ... Why do so many shoot with the bayonet extended? Are there zombies out there I'm not seeing :p
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Most likely the look cool factor. Also their are a few people who believe that rifles get better accuracy with the bayo out. Something to do with barrel harmonics or something. Not too sure really. I will admit to believing it at one point but now that im older it sounds kinda silly to me.
 
The Soviets would sight the rifles with the bayonets extended, something to do with barrel harmonics...



It also makes an awesome javelin for throwing at zombies when you run out of ammo!
 
LeeEnfieldNo.4_mk1 said:
Most likely the look cool factor. Also their are a few people who believe that rifles get better accuracy with the bayo out. Something to do with barrel harmonics or something. Not too sure really. I will admit to believing it at one point but now that im older it sounds kinda silly to me.
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Don't feel bad ... after watching a few vid's of these beign fired, I was wondering if it was to prevent skewering the fingers of your left hand during recoil. I've got long hands, andif i dont' pay attention sighting it out the window, my fingers endup on/behind the bayonet.
 
If you are set-up for reloading try C312-155-2R cast from Lee sized to what your M44 needs and 14 Gr +/-0.5Gr of Red Dot powder.This load works wonders in my M91 MN and is perfect for plinking.
 
Russian soldiers were to fight/advance with bayonets affixed (which is why there's no scabbard or frog) at all times.
 
If you shoot your Lee-Nagant, make sure to clean the barrel after, and to leave some oil n the barrel. The surplus ammo leave salt deposits in the barrel, that attracts moisture and then rust.

Any gun should be cleaned after shooting, but this is real important with salty (corrosive) ammo.
 
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