not impressed with latest winchester experience

kman300

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I'm rather annoyed with my latest Winchester experience. I bought a new production FN/BACO m70 Super Grade in 300 win mag and a box of Winchester power point 150gr for sighting in/brass. I had recently read a thread with pictures showing mashed up tips, bullets not seated straight, different seating depths etc and when I checked mine they looked like that too. Since I was just shooting them for sight in and brass I didn't care to much I guess.

Well I fired 5 shots and the 5th one felt strange. I checked the brass and this is what it looked like. I then pulled the bolt to check down the barrel to make sure all was well and that's when I noticed that the area behind the tang had chips from the finish missing! I then looked my bolt over and noticed wood on the bottom of the bolt handle and then I checked the wood cut out for the bolt to close and noticed that the wood was higher than the metal so when I close the bolt it bangs/rests on the wood and not the metal of the action.

I was pissed off and I packed up and went home at this point. Ammo looks horrible and splits necks, finished chipped off at tang after 5 shots (is my stock eventually going to crack as there is obviously pressure at that point?) and my bolt rests on the wood of the stock when closed and it is slowly disintegrating there. Cost me over $1200 for this rifle and I'm not sure what to say.

Any suggestions on what to do here?
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Take it back to the place you bought it I would say. That spent brass looks awful. If you can't get any resolution with dealer I would suggest getting in direct contact with Winchester regarding that spent round. I've had contact with them and have been treated quite well,
 
Thats what mag winchester brass does from what I have seen. A buddies savage 7mm rem mag does the same thing with winchester brass. As for the bolt hitting the wood something isn't right there. I have a fn made featherweight in 30-06 and there is plenty of room between the bolt and wood. Lemons happen doesn't matter what company makes em. Even cooper has problems on some rifles.
 
Well I have used M-70's since the very early seventies with very few issues. Presently I have 3 of the new FN versions, with absolutely no issues. In this case I agree with you "not acceptable" complain to your purchasing dealer plus to Winchester. See if you can get the name of the local Winchester/Browning rep and show him the problems. I had an issue with a Winchester shotgun in the late seventies the Winchester rep at the time made things happen to resolve the matter quickly.
Also save the box the ammo came in as in has the batch number on the box flap, quote that when communicating about that issue. Best of luck getting this resolved to your satisfaction, and remember like stated previously, at times lemons get out of the factory, doesn't mean there all bad just the one you had the misfortune to receive. Do keep us posted on the proceedings as we all like to keep abreast of these things.
 
that rifle looks like a candidate for bedding and a little clearanceing prior to shooting it again. new win brass is crap. i loaded 300wsm and 3325wsm and had two out of three rounds neck splt. i will continue to buy old new brass if i find it but won't buy any more otherwise.
 
That brass would be a let down for the first firing...the wood below the bolt I would just releave a bit and reseal ... the chip by the tag would be ok if it was a used rifle. I'm sure the warranty will look after you, might be some unwanted down time though.
 
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Bought some .270 WSM reloading brass and some of it came out of the bag, looking like this. Not impressed to say the least.

Grizz
 
Buying factory ammo for brass is not cost effective. The last large brass purchase I made was Winchester .458 and its been fine, but it was factory annealed where as your factory loaded ammo doesn't appear to have been. Try a bag of Winchester brass, and if it doesn't appear to have been annealed, anneal it yourself prior to the first loading, that will solve the neck splits.
 
Take it all back where you bought it, they should take care of you. Wether they do or not, you should talk to Winchester and let them know all about your experience IMO.
 
Just a quick update. Place I bought it from told me to deal with Winchester. Winchester told me to call an authorized repair center. They told me issues with finish go back to Winchester. So I called Winchester again and they told me to mail the gun to them on my dime. So will see How long this takes and How good they fix it.
 
kman300 said:
Just a quick update. Place I bought it from told me to deal with Winchester. Winchester told me to call an authorized repair center. They told me issues with finish go back to Winchester. So I called Winchester again and they told me to mail the gun to them on my dime. So will see How long this takes and How good they fix it.
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I am guessing you get a new stock and/or gun. I hope so for your sake. You bought that gun to have something you could be proud of. Stuff happens, but that is not acceptable. Hope it all works out for you.
 
I sent a Browning M12, 20 ga. Grade V back to that location about 15yrs ago. They had the gun about 8 months before it arrived back by Canpar with a hand scrawled note in the box stating what they had done.
When you send the gun back I would suggest including a very precise, detailed, polite letter explaining the issues and what you expect. Sincerely hope you get faster service with better communication. Just thought I would give you the heads up.

When Winchester was based out of Cobourg and they had local Winchester reps, issues seemed to get resolved in a more timely fashion.
 
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