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...While I was out hunting Elk in Northern Saskatchewan Last week, I saw something that disturbed the $hit out of me. And after talking to a few of the other hunters from the area in which we were hunting, I was getting very, very pissed off.:mad:

...For the first four days of elk season, we watched as a plane flew around the area, very low(just above the tree tops), very slow, and always from the open hunting zone, into the no-hunting zones around it.
...The area I was in, has loads of elk from all the sign we saw. When we talked to local farmers about hunting on their land, they were more than eager to have the "Crop Eating Vermin" put into someones freezer, Quote "If the game wardens don't chase them all out of here with their plane, they do it every year." :eek:
We got comments like this from local farmers, hunters and even a guide.

...Now I'm not going to say I saw Game Wardens chasing Elk with their plane, but I will say that for four days we saw some very strange looking things happening in the sky. I can't see everyone saying what they were, without some small amount of truth in it some place. And why do we see Elk everywhere and then 1 hr into opening day we see nothing for 4 days and close to 3000 miles by vehicle and another 30-50 miles on foot.( opening day we only heard about a doozen shots fired, that doesn't make all the elk in a zone go into hidding)

...Why, for the two days before season opened, did we not see this plane:confused: And why, did the Game Wardens not stop and detain the plane and it's occupants:confused:

...Quote "It is against the law to use aircraft for any purpose connected with searching for, hunting or killing big game. (Saskatchewan Hunting Regulations Guide 2006)

...Hunting includes taking, wounding, killing, chasing, pursuing, worrying, capturing, following after or on the trail of, searching for, shooting at, trapping, setting snares for, stalking or lying in wait for any wildlife, whether or not the wildlife is subsequently captured wounded or killed. (Saskatchewan Hunting Regulations Guide 2006)

...If this is indeed what is happening, now we know why they asked for sidearms, their A-holes and are afraid their going to get shot.

... And the one that did stop us out there, thought he was Audy Murphy, no it was closer to Robo Cop, as he saunters up to our truck, hand on the butt of his pistola and demained in a very arrogant manner that we open the bolts on our rifles and show him our hunting licenses.:rolleyes: :mad:

... Now after I take time off work, buy a licenses,pay for bullets and powder, pay for food and loggings, and fuel, walk around the woods all day hunting, I tend to get alittle pissed when I hear/see this kind of $hit.

...Now I have met some very nice Wardens in my years, but I have also met just as many A-holes. And they wonder why so many hunters wouldn't walk across the street to piss on them if they were on fire.

...So folks, what do you think, that we as hunters, should do about this kind of crap :confused: Personally, I e-mailed the minister of fish and game.
 
plane type, make, model , color and any other distinctive characteristics sould be provided to both police and minister of natural resources - or whatever the name.

the plane must have had a plight plan to fly than much, so it's really easy to track.
don't let this go until you get an answer.
Get the local club or proincial association involved as well.
It will likely take some 4 hours of you time, but it's worth it.
This is not small game overbagging.
 
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Is there not a regulation that stipulates the minimum altitude at which a plane must fly unless it is crop dusting (assuming that is done these days) or firefighting? Seems to me this pilot would be violating such a regulation and a reporting of the plane's serial numbers should cause some type of investigation.
 
By the way your post was written it sounds to me like you have a big chip on your shoulder. Most enforcement people can pick up on that very quickly and it often changes the way they deal with people.

Why would "wardens" want to chase elk into no hunting areas????

The people in the plane may have been up to no good and like many above have said it is our duty as sportsmen to try and gather info and provide it to the authorities to help them catch the bads.

Hope you have better luck next time you are out after those elk.

Robin down under
 
I would report the plane without mentioning any suspicions of fish&wildlife being involved.Getting the aviation authorities involved might get more results than reporting it to fish&wildlife,especially if they are involved.I would call transport Canada if you can identify the plane.

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I would go the Transport Canada route before the Fish and Game. As a pilot I have dealt with TC and have worked under contract for the Department of Natural Resources and Energy in N.B.

The quotes above about "no hunting related stuff" is very true and carries a hefty fine, possible jail time and licence revocation for the pilot of said aircraft. I remember this vividly from flight school because the instructor singled out all the hunters in the group and warned us about this, to make sure we didn't get in trouble.

In my experience the Fish and Game people usually try to push the boundaries on stuff like this, because the ultimate responsibility falls on the pilot. If the pilot is a rookie, and he/she most likely is, he/she may not have the balls to stand up to the person giving the orders.

It could also be that they are conducting wildlife surveys....those do happen from time to time and without proper experience the pilot may inadvertently be frightening the animals.
 
It could also be that they are conducting wildlife surveys....those do happen from time to time and without proper experience the pilot may inadvertently be frightening the animals.

According to the people that I have talked to from fish&wildlife,they do the surveys in winter when the leaves are all down and there is snow on the ground,because the animals are much easier to see.As well hunting season is over and they aren't as busy.
 
i would imagine some COs are pretty high on themselves just like some Police are...and then there are some who are ok and jusy trying to do their job!
 
Game Wardens chasing Elk out of a hunting area in a low flying plane..... does anyone other than myself see the inanity of that statement.:confused:
If there are enough Elk in the area to warrant tags being issued then the local Fish and Game Department wants to see those animals harvested. The province is not giving the fish cops money to be wasted flying around in planes chasing wildlife.
Never mind the dangers of flying low and slow enough in a fixed wing aircraft to chase anything on the ground!:eek:
I hear these paranoid conspiracy theories every year... and you know what... some people even believe them!:runaway:
 
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