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You used Gunzilla to clean your VZ and now it's covered in rust??? Something is missing here... Post a picture.




..Mine still hasn't been cleaned and it's bare steel.

I have to agree. Before I bought mine I read internet testimonials for a few hours on sites ranging from defensivecarry.com to hunters and anglers. The reviews were amazing. I know you can't believe everything you read on the internet but it would be impossible to involve so many people in a scam.
 
I have sold over 100 bottles of this in the last 2 weeks... I've had not a single complaint. If there's a problem with it I want to know. However I have received nothing but praise at the product and am using it on all my firearms here.

However skeptical, it's not something that I'll dismiss until hearing more.
 
Ok...I have a question about this Copperzilla......Regular Gunzilla claims that it can remove copper (As noted on the first post), but now there is a Copperzilla?...Why is that?.....Not wanting to stir the pot, but it sounds like Gunzilla claims might be, well, overstated?....

This needs to be addressed imo
Although I did buy one of each :redface:
 
Gunzilla can remove copper, copperzilla is a copper solvent. Although gunzilla can remove some copper, the copperzilla gets right in and breaks it up.


Gunzilla is a CLP while copperzilla is just for your bore.
 
So does copperzilla have almost the exact same label as gunzilla?
Cause I got 2 bottles of gunzilla bc-10, no reference to copperzilla anywheres on the bottle.
 
I just saw that. The one you got with the brown top is copperzilla, they sent me a demo box by accident and have the wrong labels. I'll have a new box in from the depot tomorrow that has the proper labels.

If you want one with a different label, let me know but the ingredients are correct.
 
Here a pic of inside my gaz system :

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I use it to clean my CZ. One week later, rust from end of chamber to muzzle and inside the gaz system. Great, now seem impossible to remove this, what should i do ?

;):D I myself find CLP/ breakfree to be a excellent rust remover and metal protector.

You may want to clean off that rust with some clp and steel wool.


I would like to try it out myself before I make any judgements or switch from CLP, they seem to be promising alot....
 
Ok and how to remove this inside my barrel ? Hard to take picture but it's strange, the color is not looking rust but it's kind brown/copper.

it looks dry, like it has not been oiled.

my money is on the rust already being there.

I've heard that gaz system should not be oiled, made for working dry. When i buy my rifle, i strip it and the rust was not there, appear after i shoot it.
 
Gunzilla can remove copper, copperzilla is a copper solvent. Although gunzilla can remove some copper, the copperzilla gets right in and breaks it up.


Gunzilla is a CLP while copperzilla is just for your bore.
Let me stir the pot again...The label says that Gunzilla removes copper, but now the claim is, can remove some copper.....This isn`t very convincing.....
 
Let me stir the pot again...The label says that Gunzilla removes copper, but now the claim is, can remove some copper.....This isn`t very convincing.....

would it help if this was explained with crayons????????? obviously there is more of the active ingredient that works on copper in the copper solution then there is in the gunzilla.............. kinda common sense isn't it????????? i guess not.
 
im very happy so far with the results of using gunzilla on my cz.

it does not magically make rust or carbon or metal fouling instantly go away, but it does seem to get underneath and break it up, given time and repeat cleaning. (no rust forming after)

i could see metal flakes coming off of my gas piston after soaking the end of it in gunzilla for about 20 mins. and it doesnt have the awful smell of the copper solvent i'm used to using.(cant speak for copperzilla though...)

it certainly takes the mess out of cleaning if you are using the soap and water method, though it may cost more...
 
Here a pic of inside my gaz system :

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I would say that since your rust ring is the same size as the end of your op rod, that it is not because of any gunzilla "residue" because you would see this rust in the entire gas block, not just under the op rod.

I've heard that gaz system should not be oiled, made for working dry. When i buy my rifle, i strip it and the rust was not there, appear after i shoot it.

If you did not oil the gas block, then it can not be caused from the oil..

I would surmise that the rust was there previously and either you didn't notice it or like you said, you left it dry therefore iwas left untreated. Any untreated bare metal will obviously rust if left alone. The likelyhood of any oil causing rust is very slim. My VZ is bare steel and has only received one coat of this product on the surface( month + ago?). Last weekend it spent a whole tac rifle course sitting in 90+ % humidity, 30deg heat and rain off and on. I still haven't reoiled it (I'm in no way advocating anyone do this). But that being said, no cleaning, no reoiling and not keeping it dry in a few thousand rounds and my gas block and everything else is rust free (however it is filthy from carbon).

In order to remove rust with your gunzilla, let it soak for 30mins and follow the supplied directions in the leaflet.


Let me stir the pot again...The label says that Gunzilla removes copper, but now the claim is, can remove some copper.....This isn`t very convincing.....

I suggest that in stead of stiring the pot you take 5 minutes and look up the product info. Like I said previously, one is a CLP, one is a copper solvent. CLP's and Copper solvents have been around for ages and are often used together, and this is not some new hocus-pocus scam to get your money. If that answer doesn't suffice, I don't know what to say. If you're not convinced... please don't use it.


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I assumed some people only use WD-40, or Windex to clean the rifle instead of boiling water. Sometimes WD-40 or Windex wouldn't get into certain spot to neutralized the salt. That certain spot will end up with some corrosion. I have tested many products and i believe boiling water does the best job on getting rid of the salt from the primer. I usually clean my rifle at least twice after shooting to make sure it doesn't have any corrosion.
 
Let me stir the pot again...The label says that Gunzilla removes copper, but now the claim is, can remove some copper.....This isn`t very convincing.....

In all fairness most general purpose bore cleaners remove copper. For instance, Hoppes #9, however, if you've got a heavy build-up of copper a general purpose bore cleaner is probably not the best choice, which is why most companies that make a good general purpose cleaner also make a special purpose copper remover, for instance Hoppes BenchRest Copper Solvent. (or their new MPro7 Copper Solvent).
 
would it help if this was explained with crayons????????? obviously there is more of the active ingredient that works on copper in the copper solution then there is in the gunzilla.............. kinda common sense isn't it????????? i guess not.
I guess some things do need to be spelled out for you....Words have meanings....Something you should have learned when you were young....Read the labeling again...Common Sense?...Guns can kill, so lets ban them...It`s only common sense....You sound like Wendy...
 
In all fairness most general purpose bore cleaners remove copper. For instance, Hoppes #9, however, if you've got a heavy build-up of copper a general purpose bore cleaner is probably not the best choice, which is why most companies that make a good general purpose cleaner also make a special purpose copper remover, for instance Hoppes BenchRest Copper Solvent. (or their new MPro7 Copper Solvent).
Now that`s a more mature response...Something a few people should heed....
 
.... I suggest that in stead of stiring the pot you take 5 minutes and look up the product info. Like I said previously, one is a CLP, one is a copper solvent. CLP's and Copper solvents have been around for ages and are often used together, and this is not some new hocus-pocus scam to get your money. If that answer doesn't suffice, I don't know what to say. If you're not convinced... please don't use it.
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Stirring the pot is a well used term around here if someone want`s to play "The Devil`s Advocate"....These are reasonable question`s when you consider the seemingly infinite amount of cleaning products on the market, all claiming to do everything for your gun, as well as cooking and gardening....And all gun owners continue to look for that one universal product...It`s natural, and healthy...Claiming that the product "cleans copper", and then saying it cleans "some" copper can raise doubts....I have been using Gunzilla for over a year and a half now with very good results in cleaning lead, copper, Blackpowder, plastic wadding, as well as corrosive ammo....My eye brows just raise a little when I heard Copperzilla...The way I would wonder if I heard Blackpowderzilla....
 
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