NP 27 initial cleaning ?

Isn't the correct answer: "completely"?

You can try to clean it by spraying solvent into the nooks and crannies and you might get away with it, but for a new gun, you want to have a fresh start, and it's a good way to get to know the gun.
 
Andy said:
Isn't the correct answer: "completely"?

You can try to clean it by spraying solvent into the nooks and crannies and you might get away with it, but for a new gun, you want to have a fresh start, and it's a good way to get to know the gun.
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^^^^ this, just like every gun
 
Really, down to this level ?

Should this not be done at the dealer level ?

Who buys somthing only to have to dissassemble it before use ?

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Run a patch through the bore and commence shooting. Sometimes I only have the patience to look through the bore before shooting something new.
After the initial shoot I'll give it the go over. This practise has always kept me safe and the guns intact.
 
Rascal said:
Really, down to this level ?

Should this not be done at the dealer level ?

Who buys somthing only to have to dissassemble it before use ?

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Exactly to that level to ensure all the grease (or whatever they want to call it) is removed from every part. Plenty of videos online to help you along with disassembly and much easier than you would expect. Watch the whole video first to avoid any "...but first do this..." moments. Ruined a perfectly good screw driver trying to take the mag release out, only to find out that I had to depress the mag catch button a little bit for the screw to turn. Cost of Learning.

A nice big zip-lock bag and a can of Brake Cleaner (empty the can in the bag, then soak the parts one or a few at a time) and you are pretty much all set.

Reassembly is not too difficult either if you paid attention while taking things apart. A little common sense and a good look at the parts diagram and you should be able to put it all back together without video. Worst case, a video will ensure you don't reverse the order in which to install the sear assembly and trigger. I always get them wrong and have to take what I just put together off to fit the other in. (I think the trigger goes in first...)


The best firearms learning experience was with my first Norinco; I had to take it all apart. Those old "Made in 90's" G.I. models had that grease all dried up and no sane person would have ever tried running it without a complete cleaning.

Clean it well, oil it and treat it even better and it'll work like a charm. Leave that grease in and you will likely curse your laziness at the range. :p

DanO
 
trebor2880 said:
Run a patch through the bore and commence shooting. Sometimes I only have the patience to look through the bore before shooting something new.
After the initial shoot I'll give it the go over. This practise has always kept me safe and the guns intact.
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Could work on some guns not covered in gunk from one end to the other (with my CZ, Ruger and S&W; I would agree), but the Norinco ones are oiled for long storage and sea container transport.

It would go bang at least once, but I would not expect long-term reliability or safety.
 
Rascal said:
Really, down to this level ?

Should this not be done at the dealer level ?

Who buys somthing only to have to dissassemble it before use ?

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This is the greatest part of purchasing a new firearm... Knowing you get to take it all apart to clean and inspect it! As for your picture, no that is a tad excessive. Remove just the slide and barrel and you will have access to everything else. Look into youtube videos and you'll find your answer.

Cheers.
 
DanOnymus said:
Could work on some guns not covered in gunk from one end to the other (with my CZ, Ruger and S&W; I would agree), but the Norinco ones are oiled for long storage and sea container transport.

It would go bang at least once, but I would not expect long-term reliability or safety.
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My Norincos have only been lightly oiled, but if it were a milsurp coated in cosmoline, you'd have your work cut out for you before it was fire ready.
My first semi, a 1911 that I field stripped and cleaned before shooting, was a Norinco. I got it to the range and prepared to fire the first round.
I pulled the trigger, and pulled and pulled the trigger, and nothing. Darn I put the thing back together wrong, I thought. Then I pulled more, and bang.
My conclusion was that a Norinco semi-auto has a much more trigger pull weight than the S&W Model 17 and 66, that I was used to.
With time, and a few hundred rds.,even the Norinco smooths and lightens it's operation.
 
Anything that's covered in cosmoline gets torn apart and mineral spirits do their thing. Taking out every pin and individual piece is completely unnecessary for a new Norc, they are covered in oil.
Just field strip it like you normally would, take the grips off, and clean away. I'd personally still use a solvent to get whatever is in the firing pin channel and inaccessible areas. Once cleaned, oil it up and have at it!
 
Buy used, then all the work etc. has been done for you! ;) Naw, cleaning/taking apart is just as intriguing/fun as taking 'er to the range!
 
Rascal said:
Would it get cleaned good enough if I left it assembled and put it in an ultrasonic bath
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An ultrasonic bath is next to useless to clean storage oil. Just field strip and clean it with cleaner, then oil it. I personnaly use remington, the black cap one for cleaning and the yellow cap for oiling, but pretty much anything made to clean guns will work just fine. It takes about 10-15 minutes and that's how you're gonna clean it when it gets dirty after a visit to the range. The 1911 is easy and fast to field strip and clean. The first time it might be a little hard to remove the bushing because the spring is very tense, but it'll get easyer after a few hundred rounds. If you've field-stripped a Ruger, a buckmark or those kind of 22lr, you're gonna laugh at how easy it is to clean a 1911. Some people can do it in less than 5 minutes.

Note that it's unnecessary to clean it every time you come back from the range. Today's ammos are non corrosive, so letting it get "dirty" with burnt powder isn't really a problem, other than the fact that it's dirty. Actually, cleaning a modern gun that's using modern ammos is harder on the gun than the round count. More "usage" comes from cleaning than from shooting in a lot of cases.
 
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