NS522 Rifle and AMMO Test

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This is a stock rifle, except that it has been bedded. It is loosely based on an Anshutz rifle and has a nice heavy hammer-forged barrel. I wanted to see if it was accurate.

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"Accuracy" means different things to different people. My son shoots small bore on our home range. He shoots off his elbows (no rest) with iron sights. His 50 and 100 yard groups look like this;

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I rummaged around the ammo bunker and got a sample of each ammo I had a quantity of. Some of this stuff is 30 years old. Most of it is cheap ammo.

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The Lapua Trainer and Junior ammo is real cheap Russian ammo. It cost about $120 per case of 5,000.

I shot 5 shot groups, using the magazine, off a rest, using a 12X scope. A 20X would have been better, but that is the scope that happened to be on the rifle. My yardstick was that any groups better than what my son does with irons sights is "good" for my purposes. I know that 10 shot groups are much more reliable than 5 shot groups, but at 100 yards the quality ammo tends to do much better than the cheap stuff. Or so I thought...

The Lapua Trainer is cheap plinker ammo made in Russia. I bought it from Century International about 25 years ago. It was about $100 per 5,000.
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I have no idea where the Blazer came from. I have never used it before, but found a few cases. No idea what it costs, but I am impressed. I can see why others have commented they like it.
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This Federal Champion blue box ammo comes from my local Canadian Tire. I have always had good results with this ammo in a number of rifles.
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I am not surprised to see this Russian plinker ammo do well. It was tested years ago and I recall it grouped well, but the steel cases would not extract from a lot of rifles I tested it in. It extracts well from rifles with dual extractors. Totally hopeless in a revolver. I bought a few cases of it becasue it was around $100 a case. Glad I did. This is the ammo that has a picture of a chicken on the box.
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This white box DND ammo is amde by Olin (Winchester). I have alwys assumed it is T22, but don't know that to be a fact. It is stnd velocity, greased. I have used a lot of it in my handguns. Don't think I will use it in this rifle.
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I bought this Armscor ammo about three years ago. It was the cheapest ammo I could find, at about $210 a case. At 50 yards it has been superb in a number of rifles. At 100 it drops the occasional round low. The bullets
are a bit fat and this ammo will not function in some guns, but it has worked well in those that will chamber it.
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The Ely Yellow box is ammo my son tested in his target rifle. He was not impressed. It does not perform in this rifle, either. Probably not cheap ammo.
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The Lapua Standard Plus is another ammo my son tested that did not perform in his Anshutz. Not very good here, either. Probably not cheap ammo.
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This Remington Golden Bullet was the cheapest ammo I could find a couple years ago. About $215 a case. I bought it when I found that the Armscor would not chamber in some guns. At 20 yards it is very reliable and accurate in handguns and 10/22s. But, from the sound, I can tell that some rounds are under powered. I thought the 100 yard group would be even taller than this.
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Winchester Wildcat. Seemed to be poorly made.
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Winchester 333. Not impressed with this stuff. OK in a 10/22 at 10 yards at tin cans, I guess.
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Aguila Match Rifle. I tried this in other rifles and it sucked. Same again. The "Wolf" on the diagram is a brain fart. The ammo is Aguila.
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Conclusion: Each rifle has its preferences. try a number of different brands to see what it likes. From my experience from years ago where I worked at CIL, making ammunition, I know ammo can vary quite a bit from lot to lot, so if you find ammo that really works well in your rifle, you should note the lot number and buy a few more cases of it.

I am pleased to find some cheap ammo that works well in this rifle. And the rifle shoots better than I dared hope, given how cheap it was.
 
Nice to see an ammo test on this rifle in is bone stock configuration.I have around half of the same ammo you tested so it gives me a good idea on what to start with. My first trip out with my new rifle was a little frustrating. I read how great these shot and was surprised at my group sizes(1-2"@ 50 mtrs) On further investigation I discovered the ammo wasn't feeding properly and was shaving the bottom of the bullet slightly.Turned out the extractor wasn't letting the shell go all the way up and was holding it on an angle when feeding into the chamber. I fixed it when I got home with my Dremel tool. Work slick now. Haven't had a chance to get back to the range to test it.
Thanks for a great post.
Scott...
 
Nice to see an ammo test on this rifle in is bone stock configuration.I have around half of the same ammo you tested so it gives me a good idea on what to start with. My first trip out with my new rifle was a little frustrating. I read how great these shot and was surprised at my group sizes(1-2"@ 50 mtrs) On further investigation I discovered the ammo wasn't feeding properly and was shaving the bottom of the bullet slightly.Turned out the extractor wasn't letting the shell go all the way up and was holding it on an angle when feeding into the chamber. I fixed it when I got home with my Dremel tool. Work slick now. Haven't had a chance to get back to the range to test it.
Thanks for a great post.
Scott...

Thanks for this info. The last round from the mag does not always feed smoothly, causing shaving. I will look at the extractor.
 
Conclusion: Each rifle has its preferences. try a number of different brands to see what it likes. From my experience from years ago where I worked at CIL, making ammunition, I know ammo can vary quite a bit from lot to lot, so if you find ammo that really works well in your rifle, you should note the lot number and buy a few more cases of it.

Buy a few cases???? The local store has a 250 round per week limit for all rimfire and I can't hardly find any rimfire at our online sponsors much less something my guns like:(
 
Buy a few cases???? The local store has a 250 round per week limit for all rimfire and I can't hardly find any rimfire at our online sponsors much less something my guns like:(

I contact a major ammo distributor and ask how many different lot #s he has of an ammo I think my rifle likes. He might say "I have 3 different lot #s. I ask for a brick or a box of each lot. I test the different lot#s and then if one looks good, but two or 3 cases of that lot#.

For match ammo, you can sent them your rifle and they will test the lot numbers in your rifle in a machine rest and report the results. Of course, if some ammo shoots well, they expect you to buy it.

The point I am making in the above test is that if i found that the Russian chicken ammo shot very well (which it did) and if there was more available at $100 per case of 5,000, I would be foolish not to buy more. (Which I did, 20+ years ago. I just confirmed it works in this rifle, too, as well as my Walther Target rifle.)
 
I contact a major ammo distributor and ask how many different lot #s he has of an ammo I think my rifle likes. He might say "I have 3 different lot #s. I ask for a brick or a box of each lot. I test the different lot#s and then if one looks good, but two or 3 cases of that lot#.

For match ammo, you can sent them your rifle and they will test the lot numbers in your rifle in a machine rest and report the results. Of course, if some ammo shoots well, they expect you to buy it.

The point I am making in the above test is that if i found that the Russian chicken ammo shot very well (which it did) and if there was more available at $100 per case of 5,000, I would be foolish not to buy more. (Which I did, 20+ years ago. I just confirmed it works in this rifle, too, as well as my Walther Target rifle.)

Wow, they'll even test ammo in your gun?? I phoned the biggest distributor that I know of out here and all they did was laugh when I asked about quantities of .22 rimfire ammo much less testing it in my gun. I would by a case of Federal Auto Match and a couple of cases of CCI SV and not even care about the lot numbers if I could find it. I would even try the Russian stuff if I could find it.
 
The pictures of the groups did not show the group size.

Lapua trainer 1.10"

CCI Blazer 1.275"

Federal Champ 1.675"

Russian Junior 1.75"

DND Olin 1.85"

Armscor 2.19"

A 100 yard bullseye is 2". The X ring is 1". Match ammo in a quality match rifle will group the X ring.

A cheap rifle with cheap ammo that will group the 10 ring is better than I hoped.
 
The pictures of the groups did not show the group size.

Lapua trainer 1.10"

CCI Blazer 1.275"

Federal Champ 1.675"

Russian Junior 1.75"

DND Olin 1.85"

Armscor 2.19"

A 100 yard bullseye is 2". The X ring is 1". Match ammo in a quality match rifle will group the X ring.

A cheap rifle with cheap ammo that will group the 10 ring is better than I hoped.

that's pretty good shooting there. what i find particularly fascinating i the durn kids - like, i notice no dimensions for sonnies groups were provided ;). those groups were amazing!! i have tried with peeps and i have a helluva time. the best shooting i ever did with the peeps was with one of those old Schultz and Larsen M70 target rifles from tradex. it was respectable, but i certainly did not shoot the target off my elbows while laying on the ground. And I am expected to get up and function after that?? the prone shooters really impress me, it is so hard to do, i think.
thank you for the entertaining and thought provoking post!
jsd
 
I tried some Fiochi I got from Henry's, Budget shooter's supply, it was pretty good at 100 yds. The case of Eley practice I'm mostly finished with keeps giving me fliers, or rather bloopers that fall an inch or so from the rest of the group, right on the 6 o'clock position. More so at 100 yds. Federal was pretty meh, as was Winchester and Remington. Still a work in progress. Mine can do some shaving of the bullet as well, what do you dremel to fix that?
 
I tried some Fiochi I got from Henry's, Budget shooter's supply, it was pretty good at 100 yds. The case of Eley practice I'm mostly finished with keeps giving me fliers, or rather bloopers that fall an inch or so from the rest of the group, right on the 6 o'clock position. More so at 100 yds. Federal was pretty meh, as was Winchester and Remington. Still a work in progress. Mine can do some shaving of the bullet as well, what do you dremel to fix that?
Take the bolt out of the rifle and try to insert a 22 shell under the extractor and ejector. If it doesn't go in easily you have to figure out what the shell is binding on and slowly remove a little material with a cut off wheel. You don't need to remove very much to fix the issue. You can also use a small file if you have one small enough to fit.I will see if I can take a few pictures tomorrow to show more of what I mean. It makes a big difference in the way the gun feeds.
Scott....
 
Take the bolt out of the rifle and try to insert a 22 shell under the extractor and ejector. If it doesn't go in easily you have to figure out what the shell is binding on and slowly remove a little material with a cut off wheel. You don't need to remove very much to fix the issue. You can also use a small file if you have one small enough to fit.I will see if I can take a few pictures tomorrow to show more of what I mean. It makes a big difference in the way the gun feeds.
Scott....

Good explanation. I can do what you suggest. Thank you.
 
Forgot to mention. Make sure you keep the same shape on the extractor. It's easy to change the angle and not realize you have done it.
Scott....
 
Sounds like I should "Learn by the experience of others.... I won't live long enough to make all the mistakes myself...."

Oh ya, ain't it the truth. I've learned more than a few lessons by mistake. LOL My dad use to say "If you don't learn something new everyday you aren't paying attention."
Scott...
 
Here are a few pictures. Doesn't look a whole lot different but made a difference. The ejector (right side) should just touch the body of the shell. In the top picture you can see there is just enough pressure to hold the shell in place when vertical. Just remember to remove a tiny bit at a time and check it.. Also try a few different brands of ammo for fit.
Scott...
 
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