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Hello everyone,

What would be the best approach to add night vision to a rifle setup with a quality existing scope?

The rifle in question has plenty of rail space in front of the mounted scope. The reading I have done suggests a front mounted solution might work best since the scope is expensive and would not be replaced by a NV scope.

I found the Bushnell 4.5X40 Equinox Z Digital Night Vision W/Mount - 260140MT seems to be getting good reviews. It comes with a picatinny rail mount and could potentially be mounted in front of the scope. It is an option that would not break the bank, and would mostly be used for pest control on a .308.

I am looking for advice from those with experience in this type of thing. Would the Bushnell Equinox work well in this approach? Are there any gotchas that I am not considering for this type of forward mount use? The only downside that I could find was that the built-in illuminator is reported to show a small red light that is visible. Would there be better models of NV that would be better suited for this application that would be affordable?

Thank you for your time.
 
That Bushnell Equinox won't work very well for your intended purpose. Firstly, it has a fixed optical zoom of 4.5x (not withstanding additional digital zoom). For a clip-on you want it to be 1x (ie no zoom). Secondly, I couldn't find any mention of what recoil it's rated for. One ad mentions "AR-15" so maybe it's rated for .223 but no mention of .308.

Unfortunately, there really is no such thing as an inexpensive night vision clip-on. The least expensive quality clip-on these days is refurbished PVS-30s (and sometimes used PVS-27s) in the States and they go for about $5000 USD and aren't exportable. If you were running a .223 with a non-magnified optic (red dot) you could get the Syonix Aurora (which is more in your price range) that's rated for .223 and mount it behind the red dot.

You might be able to use a monocular like that Bushnell to scan for pests and then light them up with a weapon mounted light?
 
Unfortunately for clip on NV, the closest thing to Quality, low cost is the Pulsar Digital NV clip on, they are rated and work well enough at >100y and are $1750-2500 depending on model.

Syonix has been getting good reviews, I haven’t tried myself but above note is accurate they only rate it for .223 and only did I believe 500 shots with it.

Also true you “can’t” ok ok it’s the internet... “Shouldn’t” use magnified with magnified, it just doesn’t work.

No such thing as cheap NV that works, specially if your hunting with it!!! Way to easy to blow a shot or have shift happen and then you wounded an animal in the dark.

Personally, if your shooting over 100y you “need” expensive high end night vision. If your shooting under 100y A high output mountable flashlight (I use Klarus x12) will cost you $200 and be more useful.

Final piece of real world advice, if you don’t have $4000 For night vision, you don’t have $400 to put in a blender and hit purée which is essentially the same as buying Bushnell night vision sorry to say.
 
I've been waiting for disposable cash for a similar project.

Clip-ons are going to cost you, base prices for the low end GSCI's (CVND-22) start at $4k.

Cheapest option would probably be Sightmark NV scopes. The new RT series get decent reviews and should work well under 200 yds. Expect to spend around $1000 on a stand-alone entry model, maybe less for the older XT series
 
Thanks for the comments guys. Several reviews mention use on ARs, and one review mentions rated for rounds of up to 230 grains if I recall correctly. I took that as being sturdy enough. I had not considered the fixed 4.5x magnification, that is a good point.

Using the Equinox to scan and then using a high output flashlight sounds counter productive to me. Would the target not bolt away as soon as the bright light turns on?

I do have a Larue detachable mount on my existing scope to maintain as close to zero as possible when removed, so I suppose I could use the blender money to buy another Larue mount and get a NV scope. That does raise the cost more than I was hoping, but it sounds like there is no easy inexpensive NV. The intended use would likely be up to 100 yards, but farther would be nice. So Sightmark is suggested for a good entry level NV scope? Any other makes or options that I should consider that would keep the costs within acceptable levels?
 
More expensive, but a PVS14 with clip on mount. Depending on vendor, but a base Gen2+ PVS14 will run close to $3000. Add close to $400 for the clip on mount.
 
I am thinking of trying out the Sightmark Wraith HD. A lockable quick detach mount is available for it. It seems to do what I would need it to do and is likely good enough. Unfortunately, I don't gave 3-4 k to spent on something better. Thanks for everyone's input. Take care.
 
My funds had to go somewhere else unfortunately, but a friend of mine was intrigued enough to try it. He ordered the Sightmark Wraith HD from Cabelas.ca. They had it for $650 in stock, and considering it is going for $499 in the States, I thought that was pretty good. He contacted brandonoptics and added his name to the wishlist for the matching Sightmark Lockable QD return to zero mount. $99+tax and shipping, with at least several weeks backorder. With Covid, it will come when it comes. Looking forward to that range visit. Because it is essentially a zoom digital video camera with crosshairs that can tolerate recoil, you can do daytime shooting to zero it without sun damage to the scope. It should translate the the same in night time. Once I get the chance to see it in action I will definitely post a writeup. Thanks everyone.
 
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Hello everyone. I finally had the chance to go to the range and try out the Sightmark Wraith HD 4-32x50 scope.

I will start by saying that I like it a lot. You just have to undertand what you are getting and its limitations.

It mounted easily with the provided scope base. Unfortunately we did not have the QD mount to test remounting and keeping zero.

To start, the most important thing to understand is that this is essentially a digital camera with scope functions. The viewing screen is plenty bright and can be dimmed depending on preference. You start with a magnified 4x lens, which is less than optimal for close-in work. Starting at 4x, you press the zoom button and it steps forward digital zoom. I found the farther I zoomed, the more grainy the image, but it was still very usable. At 100 yards, I had the target filling half the screen and after the shot I would zoom in until I saw the new hole in the target.

The scope seemed to hold true and my shots were predictable based on my ability to shoot well, so it did its job.

The menu buttons were easy to use and I found the menu very intuitive.

Zeroing the scope was a breeze. You shoot one or a few rounds, you stay on target, and you navigate the few control button presses to adjust your scope zero. You then use the arrows to move the zero to where it should be based on your shots and you save it. You now have a new scope zero.

Being a digital scope, it offers some interesting bells and whistles such as changing the color of the crosshairs, and the type of crosshairs. I don't recall exactly but I believe that there were about 10 possible crosshair colors and an equal amount of crosshair types. Since the crosshairs are digital, superimposed on the viewed image, you don't get a fatter crosshair the farther you zoom in.

I did a day shoot so I could not test real night vision. However, I switched between regular color mode and the green or grey and white NV mode and I was able to shoot no problem. Sometimes my view in NV mode would get washed out with light reflection, but I expected that during a sunny day. One advantage of this being a digital scope is that you can run in NV mode during the day without damaging the optics.

The Wraith comes with its own illuminator and mount that by all reported accounts is good enough for 200 yard shots. It can be mounted either on the left side or right side which was great since I am a leftie. Using the menu buttons to zoom and adjust things would be awkward with the illuminator in the way.

During my day shoot, I could clearly see my target page at 185 yards in NV mode, as long as it had good color contrast on the target page. I preferred the NV green mode over the grey mode, so I only checked the green NV mode for the far target.

I did try the NV at home one evening when it was pretty dark out. Ambient light from nearby houses did not give me a whole lot to see but as soon as I turned on that illuminator, it was like night and day. I was seeing good image contrast and focus for quite a ways.

The 4 AA batteries are supposed to run for 4 hours on the scope. I did not test how long they would last. I would recommed several sets of rechargeable batteries if used for an extended period overnight. The illuminator takes one CR123a 3v battery.

Ok, so only two downsides that I found with the setup.

First, the minimum 4x is not great for close in work. 2x or 1x would have been better but then your top 32x zoom would have been less. As long as you know that limitation and work around it, then it is what it is.

Second, and the only real downside I found in the whole setup for me is that the front focus adjustment ring has to be pretty much adjusted every time you zoom. There is no auto zoom. If you are at 100 yards and you zoom a bit farther, the image is out of focus until you adjust the focus for that range. Any zoom motion is a two step process. Zoom with the forward or backward button, then turn the front focus ring to get it right.

This can be a detriment if trying to shoot a critter on the move coming closer or moving farther. You could still shoot but as it leaves the focused in range, it becomes out of focus. You could likely still make out the general shape and take the shot, but you will likely be less certain of which part you aimed for. This focus issue would obviously be much less pronounced if the target is slow moving or stationary as you could take the time to adjust the focus before raking the shot.

I can't attest how well the scope would do for a target that would be fast moving side to side. One youtuber I watched did a quick whistle to get the critter to stop and look around before taking the shot.


Overall, knowing the two limitations above, and considering the price tag is still $649.99 at Cabelas.ca and in stock, i feel you get a lot for the money. It is a fully functional NV scope with illuminator that works well for what it is and can be used day or night.

Two thumbs up for me.
 
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