O/U Trap gun recommendations

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Just looking for input good or bad on some different trap gun recommendations. I 've been shooting trap off and on for years and have decided that I now want something dedicated just for trap/ clays, until now I've just been using the guns I hunt with and I shoot 22-24 steady but need to step up a notch now that I'm doing it more often. I'm leaning towards the beretta's and brownings but with all the different models and grades it gets a tad confusing. Here's my criteria: good quality, nice wood, NO automatic safety,12 ga. 2 3/4 ", screw in chokes, low recoil. Right now I'm using my 391 Urika with a shell catcher so anything is going to be an improvement I suppose, I just don't want to buy something and then find out that I want to "move up". I'd like to keep my price point under $3000 and would prefer used as opposed to giving the gov't all that tax, I'd rather spend the money on ammo! Any experienced input would be greatly appreciated.
 
Best is to go out and handle as many different guns as you can. You know when you find the right gun. Trap and clay guns must fit the shooter. When one feels natural and points where you look that's a gun to consider. Beretta browning cz perrazzi krieghoff they all make excellent guns. Buying used you should be able to get a good gun pretty easy.
 
I was just in the same boat as you. I shot a few different guns and decided that I wanted my own. Your right about too many choices, and the harder I looked into it the more confusing it got. In the end it came down to in-stock availability. I went with the Beretta Onyx Pro. Its not a dedicated trap gun, but after shooting it a few rounds it felt like an old friend. I would like to get the stock modified for an adjustable cheek weld, but I'll do that down the road. Have fun shopping :)
 
See if you can find a nice used MX-8 and forget about the "B" guns they are inferior to the "P" guns. And forget about the"K" guns even the best Gunsmith's don't understand them. :)
 
O/U Trap Gun Recommendations

You mention "NO automatic safety". That pretty well rules out european shotguns.

I would suggest you have a look at the relatively new Winchester Select 101 Sporting. I just got one for $2000 and it works great! IMO, it meets all your specs.
 
coltir said:
You mention "NO automatic safety". That pretty well rules out european shotguns.

I would suggest you have a look at the relatively new Winchester Select 101 Sporting. I just got one for $2000 and it works great! IMO, it meets all your specs.
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That's a Sporting Gun not a Trap Gun. The Auto safety on O/U's is an easy fix.
 
coltir said:
You mention "NO automatic safety". That pretty well rules out european shotguns.

I would suggest you have a look at the relatively new Winchester Select 101 Sporting. I just got one for $2000 and it works great! IMO, it meets all your specs.
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Er, the Winchester Select 101 is made in Belgium. Belgium was still in Europe the last time I checked although it is a small country and easily overlooked. A great many European made guns do not have auto safeties.
 
300shooter;5875872 I'd like to keep my price point under $3000 and would prefer used as opposed to giving the gov't all that tax said:
Well, I think you can pretty much rule out Perazzi & Kreighoff at that price point.

A good many find the Beretta 682's to be perfectly adequate. The several ones that I have work just fine. I've put well over 50,000 rounds through both a 682 Gold and a DT-10 without a single malfunction in either - and I've seen more than a few "P" & "K" guns that haven't made it that far without broken springs. ;)
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Claybuster said:
Er, the Winchester Select 101 is made in Belgium. Belgium was still in Europe the last time I checked although it is a small country and easily overlooked. A great many European made guns do not have auto safeties.
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You're right, of course. I should have been more specific. What I had in mind was primarily Italian and British O/U and SxS shotguns since I've owned a number of them in the past.

I see that the current line of Browning O/U shotguns are not equipped with automatic safety, but that the Beretta shotguns are, as is the Ruger Red Label.

I am well aware that Winchester shotguns are now made in Belgium, but I still find it difficult not to associate that particular make with the North American market.
 
coltir said:
You're right, of course. I should have been more specific. What I had in mind was primarily Italian and British O/U and SxS shotguns since I've owned a number of them in the past.

I see that the current line of Browning O/U shotguns are not equipped with automatic safety, but that the Beretta shotguns are, as is the Ruger Red Label.

I am well aware that Winchester shotguns are now made in Belgium, but I still find it difficult not to associate that particular make with the North American market.
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Winchester 101's were never a "North American market" Shotgun they were originally made by Nikko in Japan.

It's to bad Winchester never marketed a quality U/O in their heyday. A Winchester designed and built U/O from pre 1970, that would have competed with the Rem. 32/3200 and Browning Superposed. I wonder if Krieghoff would have copied that one too?;)
 
Winchester never made an o/u in the U.S. In addition to Japan and Belgium they've had o/u produced in Italy and Spain. The Japanese-made guns were in some respects superior to the Browning Citori.

Krieghoff started making the Model 32 when Remington didn't reintroduce the gun after WWII. A group of shooting enthusiasts from the U.S. went to Krieghoff in the 50's to convince them to start production. Twenty years later Remington brought out the 3200, discontinued it in the mid 80's, and then repeatedly tried with limited success to get back into the o/u market with a procession of very mediocre guns one of which was a rebadged Baikal from Russia.
 
Win/64 said:
It was wishfull thinking. :)
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No doubt if they had made an o/u in the heyday, post-64 it would have undoubtedly followed the pattern which saw the Model 70 turned into a push feed, the Model 12 into the 1200 and the Super X into the 1400.

Which means a Winchester o/u from the glory days would have ended up something like the Remington Peerless. :puke:

They were better off having them made in Japan. :)
 
Claybuster said:
No doubt if they had made an o/u in the heyday, post-64 it would have undoubtedly followed the pattern which saw the Model 70 turned into a push feed, the Model 12 into the 1200 and the Super X into the 1400.

Which means a Winchester o/u from the glory days would have ended up something like the Remington Peerless. :puke:

They were better off having them made in Japan. :)
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Like I said in the Heyday The Model 12, The Model 21:)The model 70. And of course the SX-1.
I think Winchester could have made a better 101. Let's face it the Japanese one isn't that great anyway.
 
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try a Beretta SV10 Prevail III, 30" or 32" bbl o/u. comes with 5 chokes, beautiful wood finish (walnut), great balance, accuracy, double rib, pleasure to shoot..while it lists for +$4000, you can find them for around $3300 (tax in) if you dont mind looking around.
send me a pm and I will let you know where you can find one in southern ontario, in case you haven't already bought one.
good luck, and happy shooting!
 
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