Obsolete Calibre

Down the rabbit hole (the internet) on obsolete cartridges this drizzly Sunday morn.....
Thanks skwerl, that 22-15-60cf has me piqued.
Rob

Yea Rob , that one shocked the sht out of
me first time I shot it.

100 yr old black powder , lots of smoke & flame.
... s
 

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There was a rimfire 22 XL, is that one a centerfire?

I thought the rimfire 22XL was a heeled bullet like the 22LR
 
There was a rimfire 22 XL, is that one a centerfire?

I thought the rimfire 22XL was a heeled bullet like the 22LR

Hey Fox , yep you are correct a Rimfire .22 Extra Long (22-9-40) Black Powder has a healed bullet.

A .22 Extra Long Centre Fire (22-8-45) Black Powder has a straight case.

...skwerl
 
Hey Fox , yep you are correct a Rimfire .22 Extra Long (22-9-40) Black Powder has a healed bullet.

A .22 Extra Long Centre Fire (22-8-45) Black Powder has a straight case.

...skwerl

Ya, the 22 XL centerfire is just a centerfire version of a 22 mag.

I have a 25-20 at home, dang thing does not want to stay standing in my display, ha ha ha.

I was actually chatting with a buddy about the straight wall hunting craze in the US, I know some states limit case length but would it not be cool to run a long case like these with a 30 cal bullet and a tight twist? Thinking a long BT bullet in a straight walled case at magnum action length.

My buddy brought up the fact though that few cartridges are coming out of the states now that will not fit an AR platform, so there is that.
 
There's only a few states, in the north east, that have straight wall limitations. The answer to that was the 350 legend. It's not a big seller for obvious reasons. Rather than a new caliber, a straight wall like 444 or 45-70 would work. Areas affected by the straight wall limitations are dense populations, hunting is for whitetails usually from tree stands.

PS: I believe 45-70 and 444 wouldn't work either. IIRC, there's a case length limit also, so straight walled and neutered.
 
There's only a few states, in the north east, that have straight wall limitations. The answer to that was the 350 legend. It's not a big seller for obvious reasons. Rather than a new caliber, a straight wall like 444 or 45-70 would work. Areas affected by the straight wall limitations are dense populations, hunting is for whitetails usually from tree stands.

PS: I believe 45-70 and 444 wouldn't work either. IIRC, there's a case length limit also, so straight walled and neutered.

Well that is the thing, if they are designing new cartridges for these straight wall states then why use stubby low BC pistol bullets, why not actually run a higher BC bullet and get the most out of the limited velocity that you have, plus a lot less recoil.
 
Since, anything in the states now needs to fit an AR to succeed. Your talking about a straight walled 300 blackout for a high bc. Might have to be trimmed back a bit, not sure of the length limit.

But enough detouring from the OP. Obsolete cartridges. I knew a few people living on tiny lots in Fort Langley. Original...ish, capital of BC, site of a Hudson's Bay Fort, dating back to the mid 1800's. They had some horribly corroded cartridges they dug up in they're garden. Short stubby rimfire, large caliber. Say 45 or 50 cal, no markings I could make out.

The original capital was Derby reach, a bend on the Fraser River about 5kms from Fort Langley. Nothing there but a small historic site, and a provincial campground on a fishing bar.
 
Since, anything in the states now needs to fit an AR to succeed. Your talking about a straight walled 300 blackout for a high bc. Might have to be trimmed back a bit, not sure of the length limit.

But enough detouring from the OP. Obsolete cartridges. I knew a few people living on tiny lots in Fort Langley. Original...ish, capital of BC, site of a Hudson's Bay Fort, dating back to the mid 1800's. They had some horribly corroded cartridges they dug up in they're garden. Short stubby rimfire, large caliber. Say 45 or 50 cal, no markings I could make out.

The original capital was Derby reach, a bend on the Fraser River about 5kms from Fort Langley. Nothing there but a small historic site, and a provincial campground on a fishing bar.

The 44 Henry was a rimfire round, that would make sense. There was a 58 cal rimfire that the 58 cal muzzle loaders were turned in to but that was such a short period of time for the military it may not have been that wide spread.

I want to get my hands on the old rimfire rounds, better hit up a gun show again and see if I can find some singles.

I have a 25 Stevens, picked up some 32 and 38 rimfire rounds but no 41, 44 or 22 XL yet.
 
The 44 Henry was a rimfire round, that would make sense. There was a 58 cal rimfire that the 58 cal muzzle loaders were turned in to but that was such a short period of time for the military it may not have been that wide spread.

I want to get my hands on the old rimfire rounds, better hit up a gun show again and see if I can find some singles.

I have a 25 Stevens, picked up some 32 and 38 rimfire rounds but no 41, 44 or 22 XL yet.

Hey man , my 2 ''Fav0rite'' cartridges to shoot are both rimfire .25 Stevens & .17 HMR.
...skwerl
 
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