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I don't want this to get outta hand, I just wanna know who supports these guys if no one here can stand them?

It seems to be a concensus around here that they are liberal ass smoochers and I haven't heard a nice thing about them so where are they getting their money?

Every Saturday I gotta change the channel cause I can't stand that idiot on their show talk about outdoor sports although it's 95% fishing.

Is that where they get their money from? Probably from advertisements and kickbacks. You guys wanna throw a screw into them, I'll watch it this week coming and I'll post a list of whats being advertised, I'm sure if 12,000 people in Canada stop buying what is being advertised on their show it might have some impact.

Lets just keep this civil or I'll lock my own thread!;)
 
Great Idea Joe... most people do not understand just how insidious the evil OFAH really is!!
They have cooperated or have been complicit with the government on the long gun registration... the closure of the game farms... the spring bear hunt... the coyote/wolf licensing and limits in the north... the calf tags... it goes on and on.:mad:
They could have been a voice for Hunters... they failed.. not another dime from me... every time I drive by the fancy new OFAH headquarters on the 115 I wanna be sick... I call it the final monument.:eek:
Join CSSA or NFA or anything but OFAH!
 
The first thing that comes to mind is wild turkeys. Would we have them without the OFAH, maybe, maybe not?????
 
Whats the sense in having wild turkeys when they'll just close the season like they did for spring bear cause the southern Ontario tree huggers will call the liberals on the senseless slaughter of them and O.F.A.H. will just back up the liberals again.

The funny part is if another party wins (hopefully PC's) they're gonna be right there behind them yelling "Ya, ban the registry"!!! Brown nosers at their best.
 
Maybe, maybe not. Until that time, i do enjoy hunting them though.



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Whats the sense in having wild turkeys when they'll just close the season like they did for spring bear cause the southern Ontario tree huggers will call the liberals on the senseless slaughter of them and O.F.A.H. will just back up the liberals again.

The funny part is if another party wins (hopefully PC's) they're gonna be right there behind them yelling "Ya, ban the registry"!!! Brown nosers at their best.
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Alright seeing as how they're not represented here I'll give them the benefit of the doubt, BUT, I don't believe their media release as far as I can throw it.

As soon as the liberals win again (which I really hope doesn't happen) this release will be washed down the toilet and they'll jump on board again, I think they're just covering their asses right now.

Liberal Gun Ban Off Target
The handgun ban announced earlier today by Prime Minister Paul Martin is aimed at the wrong target, and attempts to once again stop crime on the backs of legal, law-abiding firearms owners according to the Ontario Federation of Anglers and Hunters (O.F.A.H.).

"The ban announced by the Prime Minister applies to legal firearms owners, and ignores the fact that criminals who use handguns to commit crimes don't register their guns, and aren't affected by a ban. Impacted by this announcement are target shooters, licensed trappers, prospectors, bush pilots, collectors and others who already register their firearms and own them legally," said Mike Reader, O.F.A.H. Executive Director. "While we agree and support the other aspects of the Liberal's announcement, including tougher penalties, increased law enforcement and border security and applaud the waiving of re-licensing fees for owners of long guns, giving provinces and municipalities the right to ban handguns will not remove illegal handguns from the streets of our communities or stop criminals from using them to kill people. The ban targets legal firearms that the government already knows about and that people have been registering since 1934."

For years, the O.F.A.H. has openly supported and encouraged the increase of penalties against anyone who uses firearms to commit crimes, stiff mandatory sentences, no plea bargains or bail for anyone accused of gun crime, and increased funding for police and border security. "However, the ban reconfirms longstanding concerns by legal firearms owners that the government is intent on confiscating all guns, and many will see this ban as the first step down that road. Despite the fact that the Commissioner of Firearms has suggested that fears of confiscation are unfounded, clearly they are not," noted Reader.

Mr. Reader also pointed out that some police spokespersons have hailed the proposed ban as unworkable, including Al Koenig, President of the 1,500 member Calgary Police Association, who said: "Banning handguns doesn't work….The ironic thing is after spending $2 billion plus trying to register them, the best the government can come up with is to outright ban them – it doesn't solve the problem."
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OFAH did some of the original turkey restocking... but the Turkey clubs and the MNR did the majority of it... along with some help and the NWTF!
One good does not erase ten bad......
 
I agree it wasn't all OFAH and one good does not erase 10 bad. There are other decent things they have done also.

I certainly don't agree with everything they do by any means, but what if there was no one at all???
 
I think that OFAH is not the best candidate to speak for hunters in Ontario... I would rather COHA or CSSA or NFA or anyone but sellouts like OFAH speak for me.:mad:
The friend of our enemy is no friend of ours!;)
 
COHA and the CSSA are very active and are consistent in their defense of gunowners, hunters and shooters. The government is not going to recognize these groups as spokespersons as long as we give OFAH the numbers and the money...........;)
 
OFAH is getting most of their money from anglers.

Who can resist a year subscription and a free Rapala even if they are supporting the removal of firearms in Canada.:mad:
 
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OFAH is getting most of their money from anglers.

Who can resist a year subscription and a free Rapala even if they are supporting the removal of firearms in Canada.:mad:
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Surprisingly enough, this is not true. The majority of their support is from hunters or so they claim. Fisherman aren't afraid of losing their rights so they are not worried about supporting a lobbyist. Hunters are afraid and that is why many support them.

Insurance is one of the major factors leading to their high numbers. A lot of guys need or like the insurance they get with their membership.
 
Well them maybe the word on the CSSA should be sent out more and more in the firearms community!

They offer insurance as well and they aren't about to support the liberals.
 
All of the little community Fish & Game Clubs ( and there's a ton of them) "sign-up" as members to benefit from their Insurance Programs ( can't get it unless you're a member) At best, the previous Provincial Govenments tolerated the OFAH because they were about the "only voice" as evidenced by their membership numbers. Can't say what relationship the OFAH and Government know has ... but can't believe it's warm & fuzzy. Never did get a dime from me and never will. As to Turkeys ... why do we have to take a special course ( foisted upon us by the OFAH ) to hunt them ... the Province's Hunter Safety Training Course let's you hunt every other species of game that is huntable in the Province with simply the required license purchase ? What gives ? I'd far rather hunt mourning doves than turkeys ...
( like most of the rest of the eastern US & BC ) but no one's standing up for that ! ... guess I'd have to take a special course too !!!
 
1. I am a Life Member of OFAH.

2. I know that BIGREDD and others have the opinion that OFAH is not on our side. I respectfully disagree.

3. I gave OFAH their largest ever private donation of $100,000. Yes you read the number correctly, one hundred thousand dollars, "in kind" which was five thousand boxes of Fishing Pro Files cards of which I am the author. I did this because it looked to me like OFAH was the only organization fighting the Supreme Court challenge to C68. I do not regret this decision, and have never made any large donation to anybody else, ever. I am not a rich man by any stretch.

4. OFAH plays where it counts, in the halls of power. They DO speak with the governments and whether we like it or not, it is guys in suits who get the ear of politicians, not us fellows in camo and wearing beards and long hair. I mean, let's face it, if I went into the parliament building I would be taken down and cavity-searched........

5. Like it or lump it, we need lobbyists. PAID lobbyists whose job it is to harangue governments on OUR behalf: anglers, hunters, shooters, trappers....

6. I have read the "proof" posted a couple other times by guys here who have convinced themselves that OFAH is the enemy. Well, I am not convinced. I know that some guys think OFAH sold out handgun owners, I say bull####, they merely recognized the reality that we are not going to turn the clock back to 1933 and have no registration and tight control on handguns. So we can LIVE WITH the existing handgun bull####, and we can LIVE WITH the PAL process of licencing gun owners, but we can KEEP OUR GUNS and get rid of long gun registration. Accommodation (with the enemy, in this case governments) sometimes needs to happen for the overall good.

7. At this point, we need every single voice working for a COMMON GOAL, and that is to kill the handgun ban and all that will inevitably follow. Maybe you do not agree with 100% of OFAH's policies or actions (hell, I do not agree with all of it), but they are on OUR SIDE. They are NOT the enemy. In case the pinheads around here do not understand it let me say it nice and blunt:

UNITED WE STAND, DIVIDED WE FALL.

If you want to "fall on your sword" over some half-forgotten past grievance, go ahead. But remember: the enemy of my enemy is my friend.

I am not going to get drawn into an argument over any of this, so those of you who get excited picking fly #### out of pepper, put on your boxing gloves and start picking.

FOCUS.......FOCUS......FOCUS......Kill the handgun ban, and get these Lieberal bastards out of government.

Doug
 
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