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I'd be curious to see how much traction a legal challenge to this is.

Fact is, they were allowed in, and the footage they filmed there is their property. Where and how they choose to distribute it is up to them.

Fortunately these fellas probably don't know their journalism related privacy laws particularly well. I'm sure a scary letter with a lawyers signature would be enough to get them to pull it.

You can establish rules beforehand. But once the video is shot, the cat is out of the bag.
 
I haven't watched the video (I'm on my cell phone at work), but I wanted to chime in. tse has already publicly condemned what has happened, and is considering legal action. there was a range member present who should have been responsible, blame him, not tse.

tse not only supports this site, but our hobby as well. don't let the bottom 2% ruin things for everyone else. I'll watch the video when I get home, and if my opinion changes I'll retract this post and change my opinion. they run a business, what are they supposed to do, turn away everyone with a backwards hat?
 
illegal guns

That's part of the problem, because these ones are legal.

We spend time trying to cultivate an image of law-abiding, community safe firearms owners with PALs and (to date) registered firearms.

Then the press and the anti groups watch a video showing gangsta wannabes handling and training with firearms at a legal range all the while spewing out their gang-culture lyrics.

Joe on the street would just nod his head at Mayor Miller's decision to shut down more ranges after watching this video. It hinders our image and our fight to win the public.
 
You can contact youtube and tell them that the footage was illegally created without your permission or some crap. They will take it down in a heartbeat.

Or claim copyright, they won't even check -.-

Actually I disagree. It's a labrynth process and it took two weeks last time and we have yet to get a response this time.

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TSE should make sure that the former members name is well know to ALL the ranges in the GTA and should also inform the CFO of his actions and the actions allowed under his supervision.

I wouldn't want a clown like that on a range near me or even on the same property.
 
First shot in 2010 eh? If I put on my tinfoil hat and watch the video it becomes quite apparent that David Miller hired these morons in an attempt to prove that thugs DO practise among the law-abiding and that all ranges should be closed for ever. But when I take the conspiracy hat off it just looks like a bunch of morons got together and made a video to use for their circle-jerk.
 
The PEI CFO made a poster with guns in a pick-up truck in a public parking lot.....

They made a video at a gun range with fingers off the triggers, trigger locks on guns and shooting in a safe manner at paper targets... other than disagreeing with the lyrics, which aren't any worse than Spears singing about "Three.." I don't see a problem.

Between the 2 situations, the CFO was the most disgusting, being that THEY are supposed to represent lawful behavior.
 
Just wow. I live in Toronto and am shocked! Under the new ownership I found Target Sports to be very professional and helpful. Although, I do have a memory of a certain unnamed female employee that allowed what appeared to be acquaintances (4-5 of them, 20-something year olds) of hers to pose for pictures with a H&K rifle; this happened right beside the cash register at the front. Thought to myself these kids will go straight home to post the action photos on facebook for the world to know how gangsta they are. Maybe some unnamed employees turn a blind eye to pictures/filming?

Target Sports, I'm fully behind you and would even contribute to a legal fund. This impacts all of us, not just you!
 
That's part of the problem, because these ones are legal.

We spend time trying to cultivate an image of law-abiding, community safe firearms owners with PALs and (to date) registered firearms.

Then the press and the anti groups watch a video showing gangsta wannabes handling and training with firearms at a legal range all the while spewing out their gang-culture lyrics.

Joe on the street would just nod his head at Mayor Miller's decision to shut down more ranges after watching this video. It hinders our image and our fight to win the public.

x2, thinking the exact same of this video
 
Wait does this video prove that mag limits work for criminals? You need to work 2x as hard so wendy doesn't get this to use this against use.
 
For a guy who runs 2 successful ranges, as well as an online store, and maintaining a presence on CGN, as well as countless other things - a lot of day to day legwork has to get entrusted to staff members to prevent things like this from happening. To be honest, I'm surprised this hasn't happened sooner. This is not an example of negligence on JR's part - this is a failure of staff to react properly (knowing what to look for), and of a range member to act responsibly. Something happened without the owner's direct knowledge, policies are changed, lessons are learned, heads are rolled - and hopefully it never happens again.

As for Target Sports and TSE, the will continue to get a portion of my paycheck whenever I have it to spend as TSE is the friendliest place in Calgary to deal with, period. I am constantly surprised by how often I see James there, and that he always has a second or two to ask how it's going and if you need help. And when he's not there, the staff is just as good as when he is. Two asshats making a video of themselves isn't going to steer me away from the range, just like some gangbanger getting shot downtown won't make me swear off handguns.

Fault here lies with the wannabe's in the video, not the range.
 
Luckily it's filmed in Black and White so there can be a reasonable doubt that the range officer had them pointing at the camera man with your elaborate collection of blue plastic safety guns...what a bunch of douchebag's, $5 says theyre still living in their mom's basement(S) and had to pawn some stolen TV to get the money to use your range.
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Does anyone from TS show up in the "Anyone listening to gangsta (c)rapp?" thread.:D

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