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This guy should go to the pillory right after a good flogging!!! Some might argue that he's only talking about flashlights and knives but that argument can be turned in many unhealthy and unsporting directions!:p

I shouldn't have to do this but I submit the AR15 to refute and reject this twaddle! Ya basically can build the gun from the ground up or order it any way ya want from the manufacturers or the boutique makers. Here's a challenge for any of you AR guys - can you honestly think of one reasonable rifle configuration that is NOT available today?

I suppose I shouldn't make fun. I see the kids with no money and a million bills trying to get into the sport with Norcs and SKS's and bargain basement surplus guns and I tell them 'Hey - if it gets you out and shooting - smile and do it! Swap it off for something better later...!' I was in that boat myself when I was a kid. Now that I'm an old fart with all my bills paid...yeah, I can afford to wait for a lot of things.

Young people want things. When ya get older you get less stressed about wanting and owning things. Your mission, you younger guys, is obviously to pay your bills, but after that you get your butt out to the range as soon as possible, and spend as much time as you can there without neglecting your responsibilities.
 
So you're mad that this guy advocates saving for what you really want instead of buying something you dont want to get what you want later?

This guy is not wrong

Shawn
 
No - you buy something cheap and avoid dumping a pile of money into it while you save up for what you want, because what you want is going to change as you shoot what you have and gradually figure out what you need.

It's called gaining experience, and you can't buy that.
 
As far as Knives go, I used to buy "the best" but found that low end or middle worked better because they sharpen faster. I have a friend that uses the Olfa knife for his gutting and a cheap fold-able saw for the sternum.
I cant wrap my mind around the Olfa though, but it works.
 
it depend how you manage your money , i'm only 25 and got probably for around 16k $ in guns , from the cheap sks to the expensive nr black rifle , from the cheap semi auto shotgun to the expensive one , when i buy something it because i want it and can have it , all my toys are not purchase on credit ,

i do my homework before i get anything, a lot of my rifle share a similar calibre , i do have a favor for the 7.62x39mm

when you buy scope , never get the cheapest it will mostly always fail on you , i got that lesson any Chinese made is pretty much a no go for me after i got a millet , now i stick to leupold scope ,

at the end you always pay for what you got ,

the cheapest option is rarely the good one to go ,
 
I'm not mad at anyone Shawn - "grumpy" is a writing style I am fond of.

I agree with the boys and think that manufacturers are focusing us on "holy grails"to the point that we forget our pilgrimage. The boys are right: you don't need a $600.00 custom knife to hunt deer or moose. (Don't ask me how I learned this).

Some of my funnest days on the range happened when I was younger and shooting second hand milsurps and all my gear came out of the bargain bins. I have two maglites...I look at the latest lights and just shake my head. Those Olfa knives work too. I bought a Cheapo Vortex scope for my stubby AR and it works as good as anything Trijicon can put out...I just think it is way too easy to lose sight of the forest for the trees.
 
Do your research. Buy right. Buy it once.

Price is no indication of quality. Seriously. There are some fantastic cheap guns out there. And there are steaming mounds that costs thousands.

Having said that... Sometimes turning a steaming mound into a gem is a part of the fun.
 
You are getting yourself all worked up over an article on the INTERNET?

Just don't start a build with the expectation to save money and final value of your rifle in other people eyes will not be as high as yours.
 
grelmar said:
Do your research. Buy right. Buy it once.

Price is no indication of quality. Seriously. There are some fantastic cheap guns out there. And there are steaming mounds that costs thousands.

Having said that... Sometimes turning a steaming mound into a gem is a part of the fun.
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Your right, I like doing more with less. Back when I was prettier I came in second at a turkey shoot with a Remington 788 in 22-250 wearing a Redfield 3X9X40WA. Against rigs that cost 4 times as much, with all the bells and whistles. I did pretty well at a few shoots with that rifle. Pissed the old boys off a bit but hey?
788's have a reputation for accuracy now, but they were the 770 of their day, that was in 1978.
 
Agree with the article in saving for that high end if that is what you will ultimately get.

Problem is takes a lots of experience to know what you want so unless someone lets you try all the options you will have to learn much on your own. Those without deep pocket will have to start cheap to get into the game.

As for getting angry over an internet article; that's just silly.
 
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