Ok amateur ballisticians and expert range estimators, what's wrong here...
- Thread starter pharaoh2
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"Now, figure out whats wrong with this story."
The damm deer fell over with bouts of laughter?
+1
I fellow over myself laughing. I think I am gonna head out to wal-mart and get me some of those wonder bullets. Hope they make them in 22lr
Should be good on deer out to what........ 370 yards with a 1 foot hold on a 50 yard zero??? 
Jordan Smith
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- Calgary, AB
I love how these guys always know the range for a fact, even though they never use a range finder or have any other way of measuring the distance. They are so good at judging range, and their estimates are so darn accurate, that their best guess is always "fact".
Me: "I was testing my .308 @ 400yrds with the 180's last week and its 28" low from a 200yrd zero"
Old guy in hunt camp: "Pfffff...my 300 WM shoots flat. Just hold dead on to 400yrds"
Me: "Cool, where do you shoot it @ 400yrds"
Old guy in hunt camp:" Dont have to test it @ 400yrds, its shoots flat!"
Old guy in hunt camp: "Pfffff...my 300 WM shoots flat. Just hold dead on to 400yrds"
Me: "Cool, where do you shoot it @ 400yrds"
Old guy in hunt camp:" Dont have to test it @ 400yrds, its shoots flat!"
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I'm talking to a co-worker today who was telling me his story about his hunt last week. Him and his buddy spot a deer at a little over 700 yards. He knows that was the range for a fact...
Now my guy says he lines up on the deer with his .30-06 shooting factory loaded 180 grain soft points. He fires his first shot and knows he shot over the deers back. His partner was spotting for him on this 700+ yard deer. He reloads and settles the crosshair right on top of the deers back and fires again. Down goes the deer, so they go after it quite proud of the 700+ yard shot. When they arrive, the deer is gone nowhere to be seen. They searched all over but had no clue where it ended up.
So now I ask this fellow how high his rifle shoots at 100 yards, and he tells me about 3 inches....
Now, figure out whats wrong with this story.
So how do these ya hoos compare to a fellow in Toronto that wants to be discreet with his guns. FS
I just hate it when guys either think that they are the best long range shots on the planet, or worse yet have thinking they are because they have a $4000 gun. Long range shooting is not all in the gun, it takes years of practice. Shooting 700yds off a bench is doable, but doing it under practical field conditions is not easy to say the least.
Now FS, this would normally be considered trolling, but I'll let it slide. By the way, the OP of that thread wasn't my target.
abesclaybird@rogers.com
Member
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- south Ontario
He knows nothing about hunting, Or shooting that is cleare.
I can top this story...
A guy I used to work with claimed he shot a Moose @ 2000 yards....and story was backed up by several witnesses.
Rifle was 7mm Rem Mag. Factory ammo. Story goes that they spotted this Moose on the other side of the lake...his son spotted for him with binocs...after every shot was hitting the water(go figure) he just kept aiming higher. One must assume he was shooting off-hand to boot. Anyways after about 7-8 shots they finally hit the Moose. It did not die but they did take a boat over to it and find it and finish it off.
The only thing stupider about this story is they have the audacity to tell people about it and ARE proud of it???
A guy I used to work with claimed he shot a Moose @ 2000 yards....and story was backed up by several witnesses.
Rifle was 7mm Rem Mag. Factory ammo. Story goes that they spotted this Moose on the other side of the lake...his son spotted for him with binocs...after every shot was hitting the water(go figure) he just kept aiming higher. One must assume he was shooting off-hand to boot. Anyways after about 7-8 shots they finally hit the Moose. It did not die but they did take a boat over to it and find it and finish it off.
The only thing stupider about this story is they have the audacity to tell people about it and ARE proud of it???
I can top this story...
A guy I used to work with claimed he shot a Moose @ 2000 yards....and story was backed up by several witnesses.
Rifle was 7mm Rem Mag. Factory ammo. Story goes that they spotted this Moose on the other side of the lake...his son spotted for him with binocs...after every shot was hitting the water(go figure) he just kept aiming higher. One must assume he was shooting off-hand to boot. Anyways after about 7-8 shots they finally hit the Moose. It did not die but they did take a boat over to it and find it and finish it off.
The only thing stupider about this story is they have the audacity to tell people about it and ARE proud of it???
Maybe you should suggest they use a Forward Observer when they do stuff like that!
Dingdingdingdingding !
We have a winner !
A lot of hunters are notoriously bad at guesstimating range in the field, chances are he shot right over the deer's head, twice.
We have a winner !
A lot of hunters are notoriously bad at guesstimating range in the field, chances are he shot right over the deer's head, twice.
Just a bull####ter likely, attention starved.
Its in some guys DNA I swear. I took my sisters boyfriend out fishing at the camp. He is telling me 100 tales of the fish he has caught and great details of the fight of each walleye and bass. First fish in the boat is a perch.........he turns to me and asks me "Is that a walleye".........Christ!
Its in some guys DNA I swear. I took my sisters boyfriend out fishing at the camp. He is telling me 100 tales of the fish he has caught and great details of the fight of each walleye and bass. First fish in the boat is a perch.........he turns to me and asks me "Is that a walleye".........Christ!
Another guy I worked with....trust me....I cannot make sh*t like this up....
He was a OLD timer who liked to B.S....
1st story...
They were working in the winter time, logging or what not, and they forgot their lunch. They were in a bombardier going across a lake and spotted some Caribou. So they pulled up along side them and he got out the top hatch and harpooned one with a needle bar(ice pick bar)....lunch was served....LOL.
2nd story...
They were paddling a canoe across the lake. Spotted a big bull moose swimming so they proceeded to paddle their canoe up on top of the Moose's back. Then they threw a jacket over the Moose's head. Now whenever they splashed the water with the paddle the Moose would go in opposite direction. They did this for several miles until the Moose finally hit the shoreline...p.s they did not get the jacket back!
There's your sign....
You know, we are being awfully hard on the idiot who told the story.
I am reasonably good at shooting and range estimation. I hunt a series of cutline with power poles every 200 metres(previously ranged), the cutlines are pretty wide, probably 250 yards. A few weeks ago I was sitting on a sidehill watching an area with a field of fire of about 250 yards in all directions, with railway tracks to my right about that distance away. I see a very big 5x5 follow a doe out down in the next section of the cutline. I do the math, guesstimate range at 400 yards. I was shooting 7mm SAUm with 150 gr Etips BC almost .5 at 2975 fps. I do the math and should be about 18 inches drop. I had a reasonable rest, deer standing still broadside, I hold just over his back, boom lose the deer in the scope due to recoil, no response, crank the bolt, hold a bit higher...boom no response. Stop and look at the Power poles, think maybe it's 450 yards, makes drop 30 inches, Boom, a little higher...boom...the deer finally loses interest and boppes into the bush again.
At this point I am feeling pretty bad, I feel like I should have been able to make the shot, hold all felt good, I just suck at this.
I was back there yesterday, WITH my range finder and the range was actually just over 600 yards. The tracks were actually 375 yards away. I now feel stupid realizing of course that being that far away the sound of me getting closer wouldn't have spooked the deer(snow was very crunchy), and the odds of me hitting a deer at that distance is nil and I had tag soup for dinner.
So my point here is all of us have screwed up range estimation at one point or another, my problem here was two things, metres not yards between poles and the tracks made that one pole 300 metres rather than 200 from the next one.
I am reasonably good at shooting and range estimation. I hunt a series of cutline with power poles every 200 metres(previously ranged), the cutlines are pretty wide, probably 250 yards. A few weeks ago I was sitting on a sidehill watching an area with a field of fire of about 250 yards in all directions, with railway tracks to my right about that distance away. I see a very big 5x5 follow a doe out down in the next section of the cutline. I do the math, guesstimate range at 400 yards. I was shooting 7mm SAUm with 150 gr Etips BC almost .5 at 2975 fps. I do the math and should be about 18 inches drop. I had a reasonable rest, deer standing still broadside, I hold just over his back, boom lose the deer in the scope due to recoil, no response, crank the bolt, hold a bit higher...boom no response. Stop and look at the Power poles, think maybe it's 450 yards, makes drop 30 inches, Boom, a little higher...boom...the deer finally loses interest and boppes into the bush again.
At this point I am feeling pretty bad, I feel like I should have been able to make the shot, hold all felt good, I just suck at this.
I was back there yesterday, WITH my range finder and the range was actually just over 600 yards. The tracks were actually 375 yards away. I now feel stupid realizing of course that being that far away the sound of me getting closer wouldn't have spooked the deer(snow was very crunchy), and the odds of me hitting a deer at that distance is nil and I had tag soup for dinner.
So my point here is all of us have screwed up range estimation at one point or another, my problem here was two things, metres not yards between poles and the tracks made that one pole 300 metres rather than 200 from the next one.
