This is actually a funny coincidence as I did the same thing with my Browning push feed without drama. I did this before I read todays posts. I wanted a safe test and didn't have any dummy rounds made up so I used empties. Hope the video works.
OK, I'm convinced I NEED a.375H&H but, which one???
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This is actually a funny coincidence as I did the same thing with my Browning push feed without drama. I did this before I read todays posts. I wanted a safe test and didn't have any dummy rounds made up so I used empties. Hope the video works.
This is actually a funny coincidence as I did the same thing with my Browning push feed without drama. I did this before I read todays posts. I wanted a safe test and didn't have any dummy rounds made up so I used empties. Hope the video works.
Unfortunately it's still a Browning. Even upside down.
Not necessarily.
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I'm impressed, NB444. How does it handle double feeds (push the bolt forward on a case til you hear the next case pop up, then back up and attempt to push the next case from the mag forward). The double feed scenario is the most concerning one, as 'bolt stuttering' is more common than most would like to admit in a truly nasty situation. Neat video.
One would assume that would cause a jam. I have hunted for a number of years and this scenario hasn't occurred to me yet, not to say it couldn't happen.
I used to practice martial years ago and one of the fundamentals of that discipline is muscle memory, you practice a movement until you do not need to think of the movement, it just happens. I find the same concept applies to rifles also, I am by no means an expert but I don't stop until I feel my hand closing the bolt. This would be a case where familiarity and practice with your rifle would be of paramount importance.
Just to reiterate, I have a great respect for CRF rifles, I can not think of a circumstance where it would be a disadvantage to use one and a Ruger is probably in my future, but I also believe other action types have merit and deserve consideration for the OP.
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Ardent
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One would assume that would cause a jam. I have hunted for a number of years and this scenario hasn't occurred to me yet, not to say it couldn't happen.
I used to practice martial years ago and one of the fundamentals of that discipline is muscle memory, you practice a movement until you do not need to think of the movement, it just happens. I find the same concept applies to rifles also, I am by no means an expert but I don't stop until I feel my hand closing the bolt. This would be a case where familiarity and practice with your rifle would be of paramount importance.
Just to reiterate, I have a great respect for CRF rifles, I can not think of a circumstance where it would be a disadvantage to use one and a Ruger is probably in my future, but I also believe other action types have merit and deserve consideration for the OP.
Fair enough and well said, I'm very familiar with non-stop training and muscle memory in my profession. Unfortunately just three days ago I had a brain fart for the first time in 10 years flying. A situation changed from what I expected and trained for, and I left an important switch off I've never once forgotten that is part of my muscle memory routine- I place my finger on it literally, but neglected to actuate it given the odd circumstances. Unfortunately, there was no secondary fail safe system present to prevent a malfunction when I screwed up; I like secondary fail safes.
Basically, I'll take every advantage I can get, and nobody here is saying CRF isn't an advantage. When starting from a clean slate, no purchases yet made, a guy might as well buy the best system available.The OP PM'd awhile back and we chatted the options, and has made his mind awhile ago he's going CRF, most likely a CZ. This has pretty much become just our debate now and not offering advice to the OP anymore, for those concerned we're getting into Africa and other items not asked (not directed at you NB444).
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In my experience short, flat nosed, bullets are the most prone to misalignment, and attempting to feed an empty case is worse, as seating any type of bullet provides a bit more length and some, if slight, taper to the front of the cartridge. Have you had other observations?
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NB444, I wouldn't have believed it if I hadn't seen it! I wonder if that is typical performance for Browning or if yours is the happy exception? In any case, now I can say at least some Browning bolt guns feed very well. I wish I had tried that when I owned a .270 A-Bolt.
I am sure that long tapered 375 case helps, they really knew what they doing when they designed it in the day!
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Cordite helped a little for the design ....
No problem, thats what I like about this site, people sharing their experiences so other people can make infomed decisions.
Yes I have seen longer loaded cases not feed where empties would from one side of the box or the other.
Feeding empties is something that no longer interests me.
Source for Winchester M70 Safari Express...
Are the M70 Safari Express rifles in .375 H&H in stock anywhere? I can't see that any of the "usual suspects" (forum sponsors) have any listed? If so, what the going price on them?
Are the M70 Safari Express rifles in .375 H&H in stock anywhere? I can't see that any of the "usual suspects" (forum sponsors) have any listed? If so, what the going price on them?
It was a LH Model 70 in 300 Win Mag I believe.
Anyway, I have had so many rifles pass through my hands since then and try and worry about what they will do with rounds that go bang.
How about you 1899? Why would you recommend a rifle feed empties? Tell us what you would do to achieve that. Or are you just looking for a fight, cause I'm game.
In that price-range I'd lean toward the new production Model 70, since it has just about everything I want in a big-game rifle. My .458 in that model shoots like a varmint rifle, which though is a more or less useless on a heavy is still gratifying. I particularily like the safety, not so much for the 3 positions but for the way it locks the striker. On a safari you will probably be cocked and locked for days at a time while surrounded by people who give the impression that they are trying to get shot. Every bit of piece of mind helps.
I like and probably have flogged the virtues of CRF actions as much anyone, but have backed off somewhat from that position. A rifle either works or it doesn't, and an inept operator can find a way to make anything malfunction.
I like and probably have flogged the virtues of CRF actions as much anyone, but have backed off somewhat from that position. A rifle either works or it doesn't, and an inept operator can find a way to make anything malfunction.
