Ok.... what's the difference between IPSC and PPC???

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Just wondering how they differ....

Also, I have my Black Badge coarse for IPSC, but still need to qualify, but would I also need to take another coarse if I ever wanted to shoot PPC??

Cheers
Dean
 
I think PPC is more like a qualifier for LE. Time is involved, but not a lot of movement? IPSC is much faster.
 
There is no movement outside your shooting stall/position in PPC. While you engage targets from prone, kneeling, left and right barricade, you never take a step beyond the firing line.

Also, while the courses of fire in PPC are fixed, you virtually never shoot the same course in IPSC twice.

If you want to compete in PPC, you'll likely need the PRCO course to shoot. Many clubs will welcome you with the BB for a club match, it just depends on their rules.
 
Thanks guys, that's what I wanted to know!! :mrgreen:

Cheers
Dean
 
If you want to compete in PPC, you'll likely need the PRCO course to shoot.
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PRCO is now defunct (3 years), you need a CSSA PPC course or the equivalent from CPCA.

Unless you are LEO, or retired LEO, you cannot compete in NRA sanctioned matches in the US.

To compete in sanctioned matches in Canada, you will need PPC certification.

Long Lee, PM me for more info. I'm a certified PPC instructor.

RePete.
 
Unless you are LEO, or retired LEO, you cannot compete in NRA sanctioned matches in the US.
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I was 2 I/C of the RP (Regt. Police) Sect. in the Battalion for a year or so, does that count..... hee hee :wink:

Cheers
Dean
 
I was 2 I/C of the RP (Regt. Police) Sect. in the Battalion for a year or so, does that count..... hee hee
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No, because you were a soldier and appointed not LEO. :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

There are some non-sanctioned matches in Michigan and the odd one in Vermont.

RePete.
 
yet again the rules are different out east then out west. There are no requisite courses required by PPC out here. and really what more do you need to have than how to draw from a holster safely? there is no movement and you don't have an RO watching you every second that you shoot.
 
Slavex said:
yet again the rules are different out east then out west. There are no requisite courses required by PPC out here. and really what more do you need to have than how to draw from a holster safely? there is no movement and you don't have an RO watching you every second that you shoot.
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It's the Central Canada (Liberal) mindset: REGULATE, REGULATE, REGULATE!
 
The difference can be summed up in one word.........
ADRENALINE :twisted: :twisted:
I play both games and PPC has never given me the rush I get from blaze'n thru a 32 round run and gun stage.
 
Madness said:
The difference can be summed up in one word.........
ADRENALINE :twisted: :twisted:
I play both games and PPC has never given me the rush I get from blaze'n thru a 32 round run and gun stage.
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Here brother!
8)
 
Dragoon said:
Slavex said:
yet again the rules are different out east then out west. There are no requisite courses required by PPC out here. and really what more do you need to have than how to draw from a holster safely? there is no movement and you don't have an RO watching you every second that you shoot.
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It's the Central Canada (Liberal) mindset: REGULATE, REGULATE, REGULATE!
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Guys... this IS NOT another Liberal conspiracy... IT DOES NOT have anything to do with "eastern rules"... IT IS NOT required by the Ontario CFO. This originated from within "our" own community.

In truth, the PPC "Certification Requirement" came about when the PRCO (a group of Police revolver clubs in southern Ontario) back in the early 1990's started allowing civilians to participate in their PPC matches and arranged with the old OHA (now CSSA) to do the "civilian training". Though the PRCO is no longer active, the CSSA has continued that "requirement" but it only exists for their own matches.

CPCA has no such certification requirement. CPCA does offer an introductory PPC course for those who are interested, but it is not mandatory. If you understand the course of fire and can perform the requirements safely you may join CPCA and participate in a CPCA sanctioned tournament... no "certification" required. That is also true for the FQT (in Quebec), the ACPA (in Alberta) and any of the U.S. state level PPC associations, most of whom now allow civilians to participate in their events.

The NRA still does not recognize civilians as eligible for PPC competition... they can't compete for the U.S. National Championship... they are not issued an NRA Classification. But at the state level most PPC tournaments allow civilian participation. There is no certification requirement for PPC in the U.S.

In Canada (under CPCA rules) and in the other 16 countries that are members of the World Association PPC, civilians and police are both eligible to participate in PPC tournaments and do so on an equal basis. There are no "certification" requirements.
 
Dragoon said:
Slavex said:
yet again the rules are different out east then out west. There are no requisite courses required by PPC out here. and really what more do you need to have than how to draw from a holster safely? there is no movement and you don't have an RO watching you every second that you shoot.
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It's the Central Canada (Liberal) mindset: REGULATE, REGULATE, REGULATE!
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No, its the IPSC mindset: Regulate, Regulate, Regulate... :wink:
 
Dragoon said:
TSE JR said:
Dragoon said:
TSE JR said:
No, its the IPSC mindset: Regulate, Regulate, Regulate... :wink:
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You don't know what you're talking about........IPSC is 'Freestyle'! :mrgreen:
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sure it is.... 8) :lol:
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How would you know? You've NEVER competed in the sport? :roll:
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I think I struck a nerve... :p

Actually I have competed in IPSC... I took my IPSC course (don't think it was called Black Badge back then) at the "Edmonton Indoor Range" somtime in the mid-1980's with my father. I dropped out in the early 90's when the original race war started because as a student I couldn't compete. So yes, I can give my opinion. I was shooting a Colt Delta Elite 10mm and it cost too much to feed even though I was reloading...

Just because I don't choose to participate now doesn't mean I don't endorse it. However, I do have very strong views as to how IPSC in Canada runs itself and therefore choose to spend my recreation time shooting in other disiplines. Its not my sandbox, so I don't make the rules and since I don't want to follow them, I choose to simply not play. No biggy. I simply don't want to spend two days of my life being told once again how to draw a firearm from a holster and that if I point my pistol at someone, I'm being bad...

However I am insulted by such elitest attitudes that if it's not IPSC it's CRAP... Last time I checked, they all are RECREATIONAL activities.

Is IPSC in Canada highly regulated? YES

Can you get DQ'd from an IPSC activity for doing something completely safe but against the rules? YES

Do some IPSC followers expect everyone on a range regardless of whether or not it is an IPSC activity to follow IPSC rules? YES

IPSC has its place, as does PPC, as does IDPA, as does Bullseye, as does just about any other safe organized activity.

There is NOTHING "freestyle" about IPSC...

Back to the original question about what to participate in...

My opinion to all new shooters is to just get out, take whatever holster course they can get into and then shoot. Once you get out a little, then you can make up your own mind, less the individual hype and sales pitches.

We host two to three winter matches here a year and I try to get out to watch EVERY one. I still enjoy the stages and the people who participate and without the BB course I am not eligible so I just eat the doughnuts.

Back to you Dragoon... :roll:
 
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