Old 1894 Winchester Value?

senior said:
Actually on original SR carbines the barrel band is between the front site & the muzzle. :)

And for JYC :eek: Again on a SRC carbine there is no hole for the mag cap screw to go in to. :)

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Hopefully I can shoot a rifle better than I can a camera :rolleyes:
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Interesting Senior, I had a 1908 that did indeed have a hole at the end of the barrel and a screw extending through the magazine cap, that went into it. It had been modified similar to the subject rifle, with a hacksawed short mag. I restored the rifle, with a bunch of parts I had around the house, and sold it some years ago.
Picked it up at an auction for a hundred bucks, and sold it for 250. :)

It had a front sight similar to the one in your pic I understand some of them had a "German silver" insert, mine was steel. My front band was also behind the sight. It had a band that was very heavy, not just a thin strap of metal, but filled in with a metal V on both sides. Made putting it on interesting.
The shortened mag on mine, a terrible job, had a habit of flying out past the barrel band and dumping the shells on the ground.
As I said earlier, there were a lot of customized Winchesters, add to that, that Winchester made a lot of little variations over the years.
There are problems with determining barrels on the 1892 Winchester for example, because they were apparently just pulled from a container, not in sequence, so some Black powder barrels were found on new rifles well into the smokeless era.
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Thought I'd best come back and edit this, as my memory is foggy
The front band was acquired, as was the mag, so could be not original design. The only thing I can say for sure is that the hole was there to accept the magazine screw, and the mark in the bluing indicated that the band was supposed to be behind the sight. It's also possible, that the hole in mine was drilled at some time in the past, and not original at all.
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From this discussion we can say that there might have been a hole there on the subject gun. So the fact that there isn't one proves nothing at all.
Back to square one.

Thanks Senior!
 
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senior said:
Actually on original SR carbines the barrel band is between the front site & the muzzle. :)

And for JYC :eek: Again on a SRC carbine there is no hole for the mag cap screw to go in to. :)

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Hopefully I can shoot a rifle better than I can a camera :rolleyes:
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How did I write that considering I own one??? Sorry about that!

Matt
 
I thought so before too, but the 32 special is actually the least desireable / popular (now we're talking collector value here only) caliber of all the Winchester Model 1894 / 94 catridge offerings. Not 100% sure why, but just the way it seems to be.
 
I don't know if it really matters, I have a couple slightly older Model 94's one in a 32-40 and the other in 30-30. Both being over a hundred years old have been around the block so to speak, both shoot well also. The point is they are nice rifles to own and they remind me of the old guys who gave them to me.

There's the value in my opinion. Enjoy.

KTK
 
Keep It And Shoot It EH!

The Winchester Model 94 in 32 Special really is a very nice deer rifle; the "drilled and tapped aspect" probably will relegate to less value although its action and workmanship are a fine period in Winchester manufacture.
Simply put you have in your 1912 model a rifle that is 96 years old! Think about that! The 32 Special aspect can be overcome easily; the 30-30 case is easily bumped up to 32 and bullets can be found along with the dies. I have had a lot of fun shooting one and found that the 32s went about a 100 dollars cheaper than the 30-30 ones. Its all about condition anyway isnt it?
So as before "Just Shoot It" and/or sell it to someone who will. Look around at a few gun shows and eventually you will find the mould that Winchester made for this rifle so as to cast the proper size 321? diameter cast bullets.
Or get some 32 calibre lead cast bullets and try reduced loads in it.
 
I get the feeling that .32 WS isn't as common elsewhere as it is here, at least in my immediate area. Its all heavy brush and shots are rarely out to 100 yards. This sort of reminds me, the local gunsmith said in the last few years he has sold more .32 WS and .35 Rem than .303 or .308. However, he did mention the sales tend to fluctuate every two or three years with the only real constant being 30-06.

Anyway, you can rest assured that this rifle wont be leaving my possession while I have any say over it, and it will probably be following me out deer hunting this year. For sure it will be following me out soon to the range though. I'll see if she shoots as good as I expect. :)
 
The first Winchester I actually ever carried in the woods, about 15 years ago, was a pre-64 32 special Saddle Ring Carbine, and that was the little gun that started be interest in Winchesters. I didn't take any game with it myself, but I can tell you that little gun dropped a lot of deer in it's day when it belonged to my great uncle. Like the 30-30, a great, quick little bush gun. I kinda think a 32sp is neat to have too b/c they are certainly less of them around than the old dirty thirty. Have fun with it!

Matt
 
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The 'hole' or 'no hole' under the barrel debate.
It was basically left to the assemblers discretion as to which screw and/or end cap was used..... usually what decided it was if the mag seemed a bit loose they would install the screw that went all the thru the endcap into the bottom of the barrel.
 
When I bought my big bore it had a side mount and scope,I had to buy some shorter screws to put back in the reciever(it wasn't D&T9) there is a good chance the op isn't ethier.

I sent the longer screws and the side mount to some body here,I knew I'd never use on n a 94..

Bob
 
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