Old and weird .22's, show what you have!
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Big Horn Arms pistols
NOT VERY OLD, THIS ODDBALL IS FOR THE "WEIRD" GROUPING.
Single-shot, .22rf SHORTS ONLY, just 1200 made in late 1960s in Watertown, South Dakota. That fancy stock is NOT real wood. It's a molded plastic composition. Kind of neat figuring they put on it, especially the big horn ram on the grips sections. This one's SN 000340. Found at an online auction from out-of-state.
Best regards ~ ~ ~ mauser
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NOT VERY OLD, THIS ODDBALL IS FOR THE "WEIRD" GROUPING.
Single-shot, .22rf SHORTS ONLY, just 1200 made in late 1960s in Watertown, South Dakota. That fancy stock is NOT real wood. It's a molded plastic composition. Kind of neat figuring they put on it, especially the big horn ram on the grips sections. This one's SN 000340. Found at an online auction from out-of-state.
Best regards ~ ~ ~ mauser
The only difference between genius and stupidity, is that genius has its limits.
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COUPLE MORE CANDIDATES FOR THE "WEIRD" GROUP
RAU WILDCAT 500, 22rf single-shot, unknown production volume, but serial numbers up to 3000 observed. Mine is #2006. This gun is blued with real wooden inserts inside the skeleton buttstock, and the forestock is also wood. Gun would grade to NRA VG+.
These were produced only from 1969 to 1970 when Harold Rau, a Florida retiree sold out to Precision Industries, also known as Mountain Arms, of Ozark, Missouri
PRECISION IND. ARMS DIV. OZ. MO. WILDCAT 500, same as above, except gray parkerized finish with plastic stocks. Serial number on this one is 113118 so could be that many of them out there, but doubtful. Neither of these guns turn up for sale very often. This gun too would grade to NRA VG+.
The Feds (BATF) have recorded that this later company made a total of 6,243 guns before shutting down in 1978. And it is known the later company continued making them with the Rau name on them up to 1975.
Below is a close-up of the twist action on the Precision. VERY reminiscent of the old Garcia Bronco. You can also make out the metal skeleton stock at far left.
We still have a lot to learn about these oddballs.
Best regards ~ ~ ~ mauser
You do not see the Win model 63's around as they cost two and a half the times of a Win model 62's. They were for the well off, or well heeled individual. Took me 18 years to locate myself one here in Canada!!! regards Dale in T-Bay
I have a pre ww 2 winchester model 63 as well... it was my grandfathers and has been through 3 generations already as well..
tarus made a remake of it for a while it was 249 i couldnt find 1 but that would be easyer to find then a new one..
I was at the HACS show in Burnaby yesterday (Sunday) and saw on the same table a Winnie 1903 and a 62. Then again I stopped to look at a nice 32spl selling for $400. Almost made several offers but gotta save some cash for the big Kamloops show. Maybe something will follow me home. Stupidly passed on a BSA Martini cadet for $300 couple of years ago.
Crackshot 26
Finally got some pics of my Crackshot. For size reference, the floorboards are roughtly 6 inches. The funny thing is, my buddy has a Crackshot 26 which has the identical action but is walnut coloured and about two inches shorter.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/15353025@N02/4271269455/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/15353025@N02/4272012608/
(The cheap machine screw was in it when I got it - I really need to find a sutable replacement) The firing pin is a quick, custom made one a local gun smith did for me years ago.
Scotty
Finally got some pics of my Crackshot. For size reference, the floorboards are roughtly 6 inches. The funny thing is, my buddy has a Crackshot 26 which has the identical action but is walnut coloured and about two inches shorter.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/15353025@N02/4271269455/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/15353025@N02/4272012608/
(The cheap machine screw was in it when I got it - I really need to find a sutable replacement) The firing pin is a quick, custom made one a local gun smith did for me years ago.
Scotty
Just old, not weird - EXCEPT THAT IT LOOKS LIKE NEW!
This is an old Stevens Little Scout No. 14 1/4, single-shot .22rf. Got it at auction not too long ago. Seller said it belonged to his dad who left it to him 30 years ago. he said it has been sitting in his safe, unfired, all those years. He also said he didn't think his dad had ever fired it.
Once you hold it in your hands it's really easy to believe his story.... Check out this little gem.
Best regards ~ ~ ~ mauser
This is an old Stevens Little Scout No. 14 1/4, single-shot .22rf. Got it at auction not too long ago. Seller said it belonged to his dad who left it to him 30 years ago. he said it has been sitting in his safe, unfired, all those years. He also said he didn't think his dad had ever fired it.
Once you hold it in your hands it's really easy to believe his story.... Check out this little gem.
Best regards ~ ~ ~ mauser
Target pistols
How many Canadian gun nutz recognize these old timers?
Don't know about Canada, but south of the 49th, back in the "Roaring 20s," Prohibition was at its peak, so going out to the range each weekend, dressed in one's spiffy Sunday best, to sip iced tea and shoot single-shot .22rf pistols at big paper bullseyes had become more of a social event than a sporting contest. The ladies and their offspring were along to picnic, watch, and "Oooooh" and "Ahhhhh" over their favorite contender's masculine marksmanship prowess.
One attended these genteel but noisy events to see and to be seen, more than to compete with one's peers. Trophies to sit on one's fireplace mantle at home were of course an added bonus.
Colt, Smith & Wesson, and many other gunmakers jumped on the band wagon and tried their hand at marketing accurate, high-end target pistols. These two are the handiwork of Hopkins & Allen out of Norwich, Connecticut - a firm better known for their numerous "Saturday Night Special" type of revolvers, and single-shot .22rf "little boys' rifles."
This design, using their revolver frame and action as a base, was available in 6,8, and 10-inch barrel lengths. Finish was either blued or nickeled. According to my best reference source there were only 2500 made between 1906 and 1915.
Gun writers of the era had high praise for many of this gun's innovative features but said it was damned from the start due to it's very poor, old-fashioned V-notch rear sight. And, it sold for $10 while its better known competitors were selling for $15 - $18.
Interesting old beasties. It was simply known as Hopkins & Allen's Single-Shot Target Pistol. How's that for advertising imagination in action?
Best regards ~ ~ ~ mauser
How many Canadian gun nutz recognize these old timers?
Don't know about Canada, but south of the 49th, back in the "Roaring 20s," Prohibition was at its peak, so going out to the range each weekend, dressed in one's spiffy Sunday best, to sip iced tea and shoot single-shot .22rf pistols at big paper bullseyes had become more of a social event than a sporting contest. The ladies and their offspring were along to picnic, watch, and "Oooooh" and "Ahhhhh" over their favorite contender's masculine marksmanship prowess.
One attended these genteel but noisy events to see and to be seen, more than to compete with one's peers. Trophies to sit on one's fireplace mantle at home were of course an added bonus.
Colt, Smith & Wesson, and many other gunmakers jumped on the band wagon and tried their hand at marketing accurate, high-end target pistols. These two are the handiwork of Hopkins & Allen out of Norwich, Connecticut - a firm better known for their numerous "Saturday Night Special" type of revolvers, and single-shot .22rf "little boys' rifles."
This design, using their revolver frame and action as a base, was available in 6,8, and 10-inch barrel lengths. Finish was either blued or nickeled. According to my best reference source there were only 2500 made between 1906 and 1915.
Gun writers of the era had high praise for many of this gun's innovative features but said it was damned from the start due to it's very poor, old-fashioned V-notch rear sight. And, it sold for $10 while its better known competitors were selling for $15 - $18.
Interesting old beasties. It was simply known as Hopkins & Allen's Single-Shot Target Pistol. How's that for advertising imagination in action?
Best regards ~ ~ ~ mauser
mag627, they are certainly related to the Camp Perry Colt. I wasn't around back then, but my understanding is that these matches were held in most major communities, and were conducted somewhat like the Camp Perry matches. Those of course were a much bigger deal than the local variety.
Below is a nice example of the Colt Camp Perry I managed to obtain for my collection. The gun will grade at NRA VG+ at 98%.
The factory letter with it says it was shipped in 1934 to a big dealer in Ft. Worth, Texas. Colt built 2,525 of these guns, with between 440 and 450 of them being of the second, or improved type, which are described as being the 8" barrel like mine. The others were all 10" barrels.
I also have some others from that group which I'll try to get posted later.
Best regards ~ ~ ~ mauser
Below is a nice example of the Colt Camp Perry I managed to obtain for my collection. The gun will grade at NRA VG+ at 98%.
The factory letter with it says it was shipped in 1934 to a big dealer in Ft. Worth, Texas. Colt built 2,525 of these guns, with between 440 and 450 of them being of the second, or improved type, which are described as being the 8" barrel like mine. The others were all 10" barrels.
I also have some others from that group which I'll try to get posted later.
Best regards ~ ~ ~ mauser
Mossberg started out building little "Brownies" - a little four-barreled gun that is now rather collectable apparently. If someone wants this, it would take a 12.6 and is available soon.
Okay - there is another one - I don't know how old - Navy Arms made them.
That little Iver in a post above reminds me of these little Colts - which have been extended.
Okay - there is another one - I don't know how old - Navy Arms made them.
That little Iver in a post above reminds me of these little Colts - which have been extended.
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Strange .22's
I have an old Stevens Crackshot in .22 shotgun that was given to me. It's about 1930. You should see the fun I had registering it - CFC were insisting it's a .22 Long RIFLE. I said no, it's a .22 SHOTGUN. We discussed on off for 3 days, conference called with an RCMP expert, and they still say it's a rifle. I pointed out that it's a smoothbore, no sights (just a bead), but, they insisted.
I have an old Stevens Crackshot in .22 shotgun that was given to me. It's about 1930. You should see the fun I had registering it - CFC were insisting it's a .22 Long RIFLE. I said no, it's a .22 SHOTGUN. We discussed on off for 3 days, conference called with an RCMP expert, and they still say it's a rifle. I pointed out that it's a smoothbore, no sights (just a bead), but, they insisted.
