I have a old Cooey single shot 20 gauge, that I have been fixing up. Does anyone know what the Reciever is made out of. It is kind of a faded steel, that does'nt look like it is blued. I have tried to cold blue it and it does'nt go black, like a barrel would. Im thinking about Buffing it out, and making it shiny silver. Im just not sure if it would rust badly if I did this. Im sure a Winchester, or any other older type single shot shotgun would be similar.
Old Cooey or Winchester Question?
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BrotherRockeye
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it is probably case hardened.my old Cooey shotguns are.
I am refinishing the wood, and its so far its turning out incredible. I would really like to Buff the reciever out and give it a silver look, can you guys tell how old this shotgun is and what material it is made out of ??? If it is Case Hardened, if I buffed it out, do you guys think it would rust ?? This is it, not sure if anyone can tell.
GameStalker30-06
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Looks like it "was" case coloured/hardened to me. You can see hints of the colour patterning in the metal. Very worn out though. I have several...one if almost perfectly case coloured and another one looks identical to yours..and yes, it was hardened too..
hugh manuell
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Check it with a magnet. If it's steel, the magnet will stick, if not, it's some kind of alloy.
Hugh
Hugh
Okay, I just tried the Magnet thing. Bummer, it sticks. I wonder if I buff it out, then use some rubbing compound and then some wax if it would be a durable enough finish, that it would last half decently enough. It does'nt have to be perfectly sealed because its not like it will be left outside. It might occasionaly see some rain, however it will be dried off, and cleaned after each use. And heh lets face it, this things only worth about a $100.
GameStalker30-06
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I'd leave as is...looks as it should....Aged!! I think the more original these guns look, the more appreciated they are. They were / still are great singles and when they show wear, use, etc...shows just how much they were "loved" by the owners who hunted with them. I can agree with refinishing wood, but in terms of metal, I try and leave it alone as much as possible..Mostly in these old treasures.
BrotherRockeye
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the pivot is steel so it's a model '84 they made em outta plastic er nylon on the 840
there isn't enough trace of case to worry about imo-polish the s**t out of it if you want,it's your iron.
just keep it oiled up.
there isn't enough trace of case to worry about imo-polish the s**t out of it if you want,it's your iron.
just keep it oiled up.
As the others have noted, it was probably color-cased. If you polish it out it should take bluing. If you want to leave it in the white you can polish it with a silicone based car wax - you know, one of the ones that sheds acid, protects against fire yadda yadda. I use thes on my high polish guns and on teh unexposed surface of barrels and they really protect against rust. If was me however, I'd do like Gamestalker and let the gun show its age. It deserves it.
Okay, I re-finished the wood. It turned out really good, it was pretty much exactly what I was looking for. I am not a big fan of the shiny old coffea table look. The wood now looks very similar to a Browing Silver Hunter. I cleaned up the reciever a little bit, but for the most part I pretty much left the reviever alone. Here is the Before and After Pics.
Before
After
All in all it turned out pretty good. I wish the reciever was made out of a more of a alloy, so I could of buffed it up silver. Still, this old 20 gauge will make for a nice little Grouse gun, while I'm hunting for Deer or Moose up North on my ATV.
Before
After
All in all it turned out pretty good. I wish the reciever was made out of a more of a alloy, so I could of buffed it up silver. Still, this old 20 gauge will make for a nice little Grouse gun, while I'm hunting for Deer or Moose up North on my ATV.
GameStalker30-06
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Very nice...I admire these old guns. Have several in the different versions of them.
2X - Cooey (Cobourg 84's)
2X - Winchester/Cooey 84's
1 - Winchester 840
3X - Winchester 37A's
2X - Cooey 37A's
You did a great job on that wood..looks excellent! I'm in the process of refinishing another two 12 gauge models myself.
Regards
2X - Cooey (Cobourg 84's)
2X - Winchester/Cooey 84's
1 - Winchester 840
3X - Winchester 37A's
2X - Cooey 37A's
You did a great job on that wood..looks excellent! I'm in the process of refinishing another two 12 gauge models myself.
Regards
I think this is way older than 20 years.
If you just have to shine it up, I would not
use a buffing wheel as you round off all the lettering
and sharp edges.
If you have LOTS of time sand the flat sides with 600
grit wet/dry sand paper on a hard FLAT plate .
Then go to finer and then a light duff.
Then you can bead blast the top and bottom round
areas and reblue if you want.
Or you can oil it up and leave it as is.
If you just have to shine it up, I would not
use a buffing wheel as you round off all the lettering
and sharp edges.
If you have LOTS of time sand the flat sides with 600
grit wet/dry sand paper on a hard FLAT plate .
Then go to finer and then a light duff.
Then you can bead blast the top and bottom round
areas and reblue if you want.
Or you can oil it up and leave it as is.
GameStalker30-06
CGN Regular
- Location
- Newfoundland
28 gauge..Both my cooey 37A's; one 12 gauge in Excellent plus condition and another one in .410 that is 100% factory production condition have no reference to winchester what so ever..They are marked cooey 37A, made in canada. The buttplate (Middle circle) ..where the winchester logo would normally be, is just blank. they are pretty much Identical to the win 37A's, except no reference to the winchester brand, only cooey..
The finish on the stocks, however, seems to be more "matte" and slightly "different" than those on the winchester versions.
My guess is that when winchester decided to begin production on the 37A's, they may have pondered as to what they would be put out as..and maybe put out numerous shotguns with just the cooey markings on them..
I know, sounds strange...but I have 2 of them..My guess is that they are quite rare. I had a chance on a 20 gauge as well but passed it up at the time..may still try and find it again.
The finish on the stocks, however, seems to be more "matte" and slightly "different" than those on the winchester versions.
My guess is that when winchester decided to begin production on the 37A's, they may have pondered as to what they would be put out as..and maybe put out numerous shotguns with just the cooey markings on them..
I know, sounds strange...but I have 2 of them..My guess is that they are quite rare. I had a chance on a 20 gauge as well but passed it up at the time..may still try and find it again.
