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I was on ebay the other night and saw some old reloading manuals for sale.I wonder if they might be a good source for reloading data for some calibers that have disappeared from new manuals. I have had trouble finding load data for my 9.3x57. I wonder if there might be some loads in these old manuals. I know some say not to use old data but if it the only available?Some powders must still be the same?
 
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I probably have 40 old manuals a couple from the 20's and have used some of the loads out of them as a base. Knock off 5 to 10% and start from there.
Plus they are collectables to the right person.

Ken.
 
I was on ebay the other night and saw some old reloading manuals for sale.I wonder if they might be a good source for reloading data for some calibers that have disappeared from new manuals. I have had trouble finding load data for my 9.3x57. I wonder if there might be some loads in these old manuals. I know some say not to use old data but if it the only available?Some powders must still be the same?

Yes, they are good souces....pressure testing has gotten a little more sophisticated since and the lawyers have had their hand in the new manuals but dont' let that discourage you from using old manuals...same process...dont' start with a Max load :D

Another thing is some of the old Surplus powders like 4831 would not have the exact burn rate of the current powder..I believe the current H4831 would be just a tad faster...but if you're working up a load...I dont' think that's much of a safety concern.
 
I use one of my manuals that is 35 or 40 years old. Some of the European loads are low pressure, IMO, but the American loads are spot on.
 
I have a quite a collection of old reloading manuals including Lyman, Ideal, Speer, Sierra, Nosler, Hodgdon. None of the US manuals will have reloading info for the 9.3x57. This cartridge was basically unknown outside of Sweden until the last 5-10 years, and there is no reference to it in old American reloading manuals. Most of the old US reloading manuals don't even have data for the 9.3x62, believe it or not.

Some old Norma manuals have load data for 9.3x57, but unfortunately most of the data is for powders that are unavailable or hard to get on this side of the pond.

There is more information on some discussuion forums if you look. You could also call Hodgdon directly at their toll-free ph# and ask them about loading data for the 9.3x57, they are pretty good at helping with things like that if you are trying to build a load using one of their powders.
 
Yes, they are good souces....pressure testing has gotten a little more sophisticated since and the lawyers have had their hand in the new manuals but dont' let that discourage you from using old manuals...same process...dont' start with a Max load :D

..I believe the current H4831 would be just a tad faster...but if you're working up a load...I dont' think that's much of a safety concern.

Of several tests I have made, the old war surplus H4831 was a tad faster than the new cannister H4831.
This jibes with what the company knows, because when they first made the new H4831, they stated that the same data as given for the surplus powder could be used with the new powder.
 
Of several tests I have made, the old war surplus H4831 was a tad faster than the new cannister H4831.
This jibes with what the company knows, because when they first made the new H4831, they stated that the same data as given for the surplus powder could be used with the new powder.

I always thought it was the opposite but I never had to chance to test as you did.

I read about some who started popping primers when trying to use their loads after switching from old to new powder.
 
i phoned hodgdon after waiting on hold for 10 min. and passed form person to person i was told they have no data on the 9.3x57. maybe i will use other powder from now on. i hate unhelpfull companies.
 
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