omg. kimberly cracked it

Bartledan said:
Yup, and a Savage Axis would have survived it.
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Ya, sure... Considering you, nor I were there its pretty hard to say isn't it? Prove it.

Just buy an Axis and be done with it then.


Bartledan said:
By the way: what argument?!?
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Your argument that Kimber stocks are weak. Again, prove it.

I have first hand experience with seven Montanas now. Almost all of those have been used hard and shot lots, never any real issue. I have dealt with Kimber directly on a few occasions for small parts etc. and they have been nothing but helpful and very polite and generous. Have you called Kimber directly?
 
No offence Bartledan but most all rifles will snap at the tang if 200+lbs rolls over onto them. I'm sure I could snap my Tikka or a Savage axis just as well as a Kimber...

Your kimber situation is of course unacceptable; everyone makes lemons I guess but they should rectify it quickly.
 
conor_90 said:
No offence Bartledan but most all rifles will snap at the tang if 200+lbs rolls over onto them. I'm sure I could snap my Tikka or a Savage axis just as well as a Kimber...
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Exactly my point. The guy in the picture doesn't look to be a small guy either. I would not use that picture or his story as an argument that Kimber stocks are weak.

Yes, Dan's issue is unfortunate, I fully agree! But, every rifle out there has issues one time or another right from the factory. I have yet to find a rifle company with a perfect 100% track record. If there is one out there please let me know and I bet I can show you an unhappy customer for one reason or another.
 
^ hold it with my left hand like I am carrying it and drop onto it with my back and ass and I bet it will snap like a matchstick, at the tang. With hunting weight I could be up to 260 lbs.

You might be being factitious, but I maintain no matter the material I can break a rifle stock by falling down a mountain onto it. I have seen people break far more expensive equipment doing the same thing.

I would also add; for you the engineer. The variables in rolling down a mountain onto a rifle are far more complex than 250lbs drops onto rifle. I don't drink anymore but maybe a few years ago you could have gotten me to take a bottle of rye, climb a local mountain and fall onto 3 rifle stocks.
 
Bartledan said:
Excuse me, have I treated you in any way disrespectfully? With all respect, I wonder at your tone, sir.
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Tone? There was no tone. I am saying that you and I weren't there so why use that picture as your example of weak Kimber stocks? Pretty bad example if you are trying to prove your point...

Bartledan said:
I'm not arguing kimber stocks are weak. There is literally no other explanation for my experience.
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Yes, you are.

Bartledan said:
Welcome to Kimbertown. Those stocks are too weak.
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You said it not me.

Bartledan said:
As for your assertions concerning the ruggedness or suitability of Kimber stocks: you "prove it". Turnabout is fair play, Is it not? Your anecdotes cannot trump my anecdotes, and the plural of "anecdote" is not "data".

As for Kimber, no, I have not spoken to them directly. Nor do I plan to. I fear that I would lose my composure if they made their absurd impact driver accusation to me directly.

Would anybody like to donate a Montana stock for a little experiment? I'll donate a T3 lite stock, and I bet we can find an axis stock, since so many are replaced. I'll break all three at work and we can see what's what.
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I have first hand experience with hard use of Kimber stocks. Bumps, bruises, backpack mountain hunts, banged around on quads, horses etc.(horses are extremely hard on rifles on the thick bush). Your experience is a broken one out of the box and that is all you have. But yet you talk like you have some serious proof Kimber stocks are weak.

If you wont bother calling Kimber directly, I have nothing more for you. A tantrum on the internet will get you nowhere and I bet dealing with Korth wont either even though it should. Go directly to the source is my suggestion.
 
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Bartledan said:
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I would suggest you don't know how strong your 7 stocks are, but I certainly know how strong my 1 stock is.

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I just can't get this to come out right. I mean mine broke from *nothing*, and yours haven't broken *yet*. Cheers.
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I know damn well how strong they are as I have used them very hard first hand. So have the people I have help set them up and reload for.

I will let you know when any of them break but until then they have been very good and stood up very well over hard use.

Your out of the box experience means nothing other than you got a bad stock from the factory.
 
WhelanLad said:
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Hope this works. If not my stock is cracked along the bottom near the spacer/ recoil pad.
It is hairlined across the Buttt not toward the action.

Thoughts?

Photobucket must have to be run by rabbits as it is impossible to do on mobile.

WL
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So now, lets get back to Whelanlad's original issue.

PM me Whelanlad and I can try and help you get the pictures posted so we can try and figure out what is going on here. Would like to see your actual issue. Dans issue with Kimber should be another thread.
 
Bugger!

The crack along the butt should not make any changes in the rifles performance or accuracy .... right?

Keen to hear how you get on with testing!

Cheers
WL
 
Already tested a husky stock, by snapping it in half at the pistol grip in my last crash. There are a lot of cracks in M98 stocks, repaired by good gunsmiths or bubba's. My bet would be that a good gunsmith fix, would be much quicker, cheaper, and less frustrating than shipping the stock to Kimber for repair.
 
Picture sent dave. Upload please.

My laptops over at my Home but im in my new area where i work /reside now , so i cant quickly do it via PB... appreciate it

WL
 


This is not an issue Whelanlad. I myself would not worry about it much at all. This will in no way effect the performance of your rifle. IMO that is very minor. To me it just looks like the glue is cracking between the stock and pad spacer. If it were mine I might fill it in and touch it up a bit but in the real world it wont make any difference.

This is in no way the same issue Dan is dealing with. Just go kill some more animals with it and be happy :cool:
 
Glad to hear Your thoughts Dave!

I too hope it is just the Glue cracking, i will look for a suitable Glue to stick back in an fill up.

Yes , not a snapped stock but as we have saod, not really somwthing ya wanna see on yer ol Sweet Kimberly.

Thanks for the photo!
WL
 
WhelanLad said:
Glad to hear Your thoughts Dave!

I too hope it is just the Glue cracking, i will look for a suitable Glue to stick back in an fill up.

Yes , not a snapped stock but as we have saod, not really somwthing ya wanna see on yer ol Sweet Kimberly.

Thanks for the photo!
WL
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That spacer was attached to the stock with a glue or adhesive before finishing. IMO that has nothing to do with the integrity of your stock. Touch it up if you like but I very highly doubt that would ever cause you any issues either way. Fixed or not. I would probably try to fix it if it were mine but I wouldn't run Kimber's name through the mud because of it.

Dan would lead you to believe otherwise with his limited experience and bad out of the box Kimber.

Sorry Dan, but if you want to try and argue your point more, please show us some real world time(experience) you have spent with a rifle before trying to say the stocks are junk or weak. You had better have some serious real word proof if you are going to make claims like that. Your bad out of the box experience proves absolutely nothing.
 
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Oh nah mate I wasnt trtin to Dirty anyone Name of Brand etc

The failure of my PB picture did not help my cause nor simply the problem, hope no love is lost between members who are Anti or Pro Kimber , i am however still an love with Her.

Cheers
WL
 
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