OMG WHAT DO I DO!!!!!!!!!!

I don't mean to hijack this thread but I remember a story of a cgn'er (maybe atr?) who drove down this road to a dead end while hunting only to find a group of hunters who told him to get the f$&* out while gun in their hands. So as he drove back a couple km's, he stopped just passed a big culvert, hooked onto it and jerked it out of the ground/road. Then he proceeded to "open" a beaver dam just up the culvert to leave a 5 foot wash out on the road. I busted a gut laughing reading that story. :lol:

Where you on crown land or private?
 
Slugo said:
You would probably get a similar response from me had you been on my land. The difference would be that my rifle would probably have already been loaded. When kicking and armed individual off my property, I don't think it is unreasonable to be armed myself. If he pointed his gun at you, I think that would constitute a threat which would be way out of line. Tresspasers are scum and do not deserve a polite response. GET THE F*** OFF MY LAND NOW AND DON"T EVER COME BACK!!!! In my opinion you were totally in the wrong. It is your responsability to know where you are. FWIW, I don't grow dope and if you ask I'll usually let you hunt.

All that being said, I'm in Ontario and totally unaware of BC laws and ethics. :D
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i just found an property map of the area.
gess what












CROWN LAND BABY
it had been logged by the port alberni mill (cant remember the name)and now no one owns it............SO i think GROW OP
and pluss NO one has the right to do that to me point a gun at me and if ever any one did again they diserve to have one pointed back like i sead even befor i new about this Crown land thing they MUSThave signs and markers and if they dont EVEN IF THEY OWN THE LAND THEY CANT KICK YOU OFF.
talk to ya all later
Riley
 
If you were on my land looking like and ####### setting up a blind, expect a loaded rifle to be sitting on my lap too.

I understand if you made an honest mistake but don't expect any sympathy from a land owner. If there was someone in my house with a gun I would want to be holding one too. For some people they feel the same way about thier land, and they should as it is thier land.

Crown land? You stumbled on to some thing. A big buck in the area that these yahos want or the grow op idea, phone the cops.
 
Perhaps try setting up your blind again. Bring a video camera, and if these punks show up, set up the camera so all is on tape (don't let them see the camera). Show them the crown land map, be polite, if they get agressif, tel them your sorry and that you will leave. Take tape to police, bad guys go to jail, and you will hunt happily ever after. :mrgreen:
 
Call the cops.

Like some others here, and knowing that the major indistry on V.I. is growing pot, my guess is you bumped into a grow-op.
 
death-junky said:
EVEN IF THEY OWN THE LAND THEY CANT KICK YOU OFF.
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Oh yes they can. Once you are informed it is private property you must leave at once if requested by the owner/lease-holder.

The land does not have to be posted or marked in BC. The onus is on the hunter to ensure that he is not straying onto private property without permission.

In a few cases - crown grazing leases and active logging operations are two that come to mind - you can't legaly hunt crown land without the occupier's permission.
 
No posted signs, no markers and no cultivated land as in hay then you are on crown land. Looks like most of the posters on here are from ON and there laws must be diffrent because that doesn't fly in B.C.

I think it is always nice to ask permission if you believe it is private poperty but you don't have too. there are guide lines you should follow in the regs and it looks like you followed them. The only thing i would take from this is that you should always have your gun ready because you don't know what f!@k head could come out next.

There is no need for a land owner to talk like that to anyone and to tell you the truth i have never had an experience like that. Just from the story and knowing what its like in b.c. they have something to hide.
 
No posted signs, no markers and no cultivated land as in hay then you are on crown land.
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Not if a private individual holds the deed .If a landowner asks you to leave his property you must do so reguardless of whether or not the property is posted.To refuse to do so is an offence under the criminal code.
 
When hunting crown land, I have a copy of the map indicating it's crown land with me. Often two copies - one for the windshield and one for my pocket. Have seen too many cases of yahoos slashing tires and threatening lawful hunters on crown land because some local yokel feels it SHOULD be his (but isn't).
 
Hunting private land is not really an issue here since we have so much wilderness so perhaps I don't fully understand the situation. That being said, I find the attitude some of you landowners have a bit nuts. Why would you approach someone who as far as you know is mistakenly hunting where they shouldn't be and threaten them with a loaded weapon?
Can't you just show them proof thats its private property and ask them to leave or call the cops? Are you afraid to approach them unarmed and ask them to leave because you may be beaten or shot?
Arent' you just begging for #### to hit the fan if you point a loaded weapon at someone (who is also armed)? Unless you plan on killing them, I don't even see the point of taking your gun with you and if you are worried about approaching them without it, just call the freakin cops.
You're all nuts!! :lol:
 
You would probably get a similar response from me had you been on my land. The difference would be that my rifle would probably have already been loaded. When kicking and armed individual off my property, I don't think it is unreasonable to be armed myself. If he pointed his gun at you, I think that would constitute a threat which would be way out of line. Tresspasers are scum and do not deserve a polite response. GET THE F*** OFF MY LAND NOW AND DON"T EVER COME BACK!!!! In my opinion you were totally in the wrong. It is your responsability to know where you are. FWIW, I don't grow dope and if you ask I'll usually let you hunt.
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It is thinking like this that gets innocent people killed. What's the matter with you??? Why put gas on a fire? What if it were your ####en kid made a mistake and some hot-head like yourself "accidently" put a bullet in him? Agreed that it is the hunter's responsibilty to know where they are at all times... but on the other hand.... If you feel so ####en strong about your privacy and rights, quit being so cheap and put red circles every 50 yards and mark your territory. You mean that you have never shot a deer that ran over the road into someone else's field? #### happens, and sometimes we all don't do the correct thing at the time. You are right however to say that trespasser's are disrespectful.

Leave the removal of idiots on your land to the cops, that is what we pay them for. Place a note on the hunter's vehicle windshield advising them that they are tresspassing and to contact you for an interview if they want to hunt lawfully. Copy down their licence plate.

Tough man carrying gun bull#### gives us hunters a bad name. Give people the respect that you demand and be the better person. BTW... Any ####### who raises his gun and cocks it at me had better follow through, cause I would drop you like a bad habit. :evil: There is no need to threaten someone, were no threat is.
 
Leave the removal of idiots on your land to the cops,
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Yes, we should never start a conflict with anyone, the police will always be there to enforce the law and protect us. The govement takes good care of us so we don't need to be rude to others. I trust the gorvement, they know what is right for me and I don't need to think for my self. :roll:
 
As Mike above posted. It is clearly layed out what is considered legally marked private land in BC. Some people get pretty protective of their secret spots and some land owners assume they have special rights to small parcels of crownland, undeveloped road allowances, boulevards, intertidal zones etc. adjacent to their property and the wildlife that frequents it. They don't!


If a"hunter" approaches another brandishing a firearm in a hostile manner (regardless of who's on who's land) the aggressor should have his firearms privileges taken away for life! We don't want that kind of person in our firearms community.
 
responsiblity it two fold. if a land owner doesn't have some sort of marking system or no hunting signs then logical thought would be it is going to be hunted. Not everyone takes week long trips were they can go to the land office in the town they are in to get a property map. As most hunters try to do there best in staying of private land. As a hunter i have had people tell me i am on private land when i was not so we all need to step lightly and be respectful of people especially if no signs are posted.

I'm with a few of you and anyone who loads a gun in front of me while threatening me should be carefull.

This assho*e that did this probably only had the balls to di it because your gun was in a case. If it was in your hands it would have been a diffrent story. I believe people that do this deserve to get shot.

I just don't get the anger some hunters do stupid things but if property isn't damaged and they may only be hunting then try to be civil about it. Its only an animal.
 
Republic of Alberta said:
Leave the removal of idiots on your land to the cops,
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Yes, we should never start a conflict with anyone, the police will always be there to enforce the law and protect us. The govement takes good care of us so we don't need to be rude to others. I trust the gorvement, they know what is right for me and I don't need to think for my self. :roll:
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People talk big about carrying a gun to "protect" themselves but in reality you would #### yourself if someone shot at you.... You would freeze and it would cost you your life. Think about that when you are staring up at the blue sky as the life slowly drains from you...
 
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It is thinking like this that gets innocent people killed. What's the matter with you??? Why put gas on a fire? What if it were your ####en kid made a mistake and some hot-head like yourself "accidently" put a bullet in him? Agreed that it is the hunter's responsibilty to know where they are at all times... but on the other hand.... If you feel so f**** strong about your privacy and rights, quit being so cheap and put red circles every 50 yards and mark your territory. You mean that you have never shot a deer that ran over the road into someone else's field? S*** happens, and sometimes we all don't do the correct thing at the time. You are right however to say that trespasser's are disrespectful.

Leave the removal of idiots on your land to the cops, that is what we pay them for. Place a note on the hunter's vehicle windshield advising them that they are tresspassing and to contact you for an interview if they want to hunt lawfully. Copy down their licence plate.

Tough man carrying gun bull#### gives us hunters a bad name. Give people the respect that you demand and be the better person. BTW... Any a-hole who raises his gun and cocks it at me had better follow through, cause I would drop you like a bad habit. :evil: There is no need to threaten someone, were no threat is.[/quote]

Sputnik,

You seem to have misunderstood my post. You've made some assumptions that are entirely incorrect. I would disagree that my type of thinking is what gets people killed.

Some relevant points and questions:

1. I'd never point a loaded gun at someone unless it was to defend myself. I believe I even stated that if the individual pointed his gun at him, he was out of line. I believe he could have him charged with assault if he had the firearm pointed at him.

2. Police are virtually non-existant near my hunting land, their response time would be an hour at least. I don't think it is necessary to call them every time someone needs to be kicked off my land. I usually have no interest in pressing charges, so what good are they anyway? However, I wouldn't hesitate to back off an let the police deal with a situation which seemed to be volitile. I'm a lover not a fighter :D

3. I'm not cheap and I do post my land where needed.

4. Tracking a deer on an adjacent property to recover it and the event described in the inital post are entirely different situations. I would most likely help the individual recover his deer.

5. I don't think I've ever threatened to harm anyone in my life.

6. Why would you initially give someone respect who has shown you no respect?

7. When dealing with armed trespassers, I think it is wise to be armed also. You really never know who you'll be dealing with.

8. I am a tough man both with and without a firearm. How does that give hunters a bad name?

9. Tresspassers are scum!!
 
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