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Slowbalt

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Hey all,
Just thought about something, and wondering if a 45/70 uses the same bullet as a .45 ACP ??? Also, what would be the lightest bullet avaliable?? Just thinking about somekind of '' Power-level ammo'' similar to what remington sells but with 45/70.
 
Barnes has a 45/70 specific 250g hollow point... I just ordered a few boxes, should have some results in a few weeks. A touch expensive if you're looking for a plinking load tho.

Trapdoor levels should be extremely light recoil.
 
Regular factory .45-70 is loaded down to BP pressure levels due to all the Trap Door Springfields out there. If you have a lever action, there are loads for them published. If you have a Ruger single shot, there are loads for them too. You can load up to near .458 Win Mag(same bullet diameter as the.45-70) velocities for one of them.
"...Trapdoor levels should be extremely light recoil..." Not if you're new and you load 70 grains of BP to shoot out of a Trap Door carbine. Off a bench with unlubed cast bullets. Found out later the carbine load used 55 grains.
 
sunray said:
"...Trapdoor levels should be extremely light recoil..." Not if you're new and you load 70 grains of BP to shoot out of a Trap Door carbine. Off a bench with unlubed cast bullets. Found out later the carbine load used 55 grains.
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Ouch! I'm going to guess those weren't light bullets either.
 
I remember one fella tried 45ACP bullets in 45-70, have a look
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its 185 grain bullets. He never said anything good about his experiment, once he mentioned velocities around 300fps - he said "airgun" and I am not sure if he joked or was it real. Now I tend to think bullets were failing at 2700fps (theoretical figure) velocities. As far as I know he doesn't do it anymore and switched to 500 grainers. My understanding thats where 45-70 shines. Those 500-grainers sure look impressive.

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22lr said:
My understanding thats where 45-70 shines. Those 500-grainers sure look impressive.

Yeah, they look impressive all right. Friend of mine actually loaded up some 500 gr Barnes TSX's, stuffed full of 3031. Don't know the speed yet til the Chrony gets fixed, but they're too much mass to load decently. COL demands the bullets be seated way deep. This is where the hard cast vs jacketed bullet gurus come out bristling over what's best for the old Gov't and who's to say what's right? I like the 350's at close to 2200 fps for hunting anything. If I wanted more I'd use a Lott. A cast or jacketed 300 grainer with 16.5 grs Blue Dot or 13 grs Green Dot shotgun powder is a lot of plinker fun. The old original 405 probably killed more "tatankas" than anything else on earth, 'cept maybe a couple thousand years worth of arrows and the hard cast lovers still swear by it. Haven't tried them yet, but the 3oo gr Partition should flatten things just fine. Anything lighter probably calls for less caliber.
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"...weren't light bullets either..." 405 grain cast. Out of a 7 pound carbine. I was young and uneducated then. No internet and not much written that I could afford either. Didn't even know cast bullets need lube. Lovely key holes at 25 yards. Still have a few of 'em with no .45-70 rifle.
 
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