One semi and one revolver

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I have in plan for this year one semi-auto; 9mm or 45ACP, and one revolver; 357mag/38sp. They will likely be my only handguns (in addition to my lovely High Standard Trophy .22.

I am actually not into handguns, yet. I shoot primarily rifles and shotguns. I'd like to get them added to the collection as I worry it will get harder to get handguns with the Liberals in perpetual power in Ontario.

I'm looking for stainless steel.

They will be both a shooting gun (occasional) and a collecting gun to hand down.

If you were to buy ONE semi and one revolver what would they be? 9mm vs 45ACP? 1911 vs something else?
 
I'd go for a Ruger GP100 or a S&W 686 for the revolver (with a 4.2" barrel). For the semi-auto, the stainless limits the choices a bit. Outside of stainless I'd recommend an M&P in 9mm or .45, or maybe a Glock. For a stainless pistol I'd recommend one of the SIG 1911s.
 
You sound like a man of good taste. For the discriminating shooter, I would suggest a higher end and rarer 1911 like a Wilson Combat, LB, Kimber, original 70 series Colt for a .45. I would suggest a Browning HiPower, a SIG 210 or a HK P7 for a 9mm.
The reason I suggest the above is that they have historical and/ or collector value to them which was one of your criterias.
If you really don't care, Glocks, normal SIGs, Berettas etc. are all fine guns.
As for 38/357, L frame S&W hands down but if you can find an old S&W M27 Highway Patrolman or a 6 inch barrelled Colt Python, that will be your collector value right there!
 
Folks. Please school me on what an L frame and "pre lock" is

I'm going to wait to a good deal to come up preferably at my club or locally so I can check out the firearm in person. I might as well know exactly what to look for.
 
Go for a Les Bauer Premier ll 1911 45 ACP and a S&W 627 Performance Center 357 mag/38 Spl.... Great duo... JP.
 
I'd take a sig p210 and a korth 357, or premium 1911 and python, or classic 627/27.

Just to add, (as i was thinking doubles not singles) the revolver that has been on my mind for awhile is the Freedom Arms. I hear nothing but great things. A 5.5 model 97 in 357 would be a pretty sweet gun I'd imagine. I'm surprised you don't see or hear more about them. frankly i wouldn't pay 6k for a new korth but I would spring for a Freedom Arms)
 
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For the semi , I would go with the Beretta 92FS ( stainless ) in 9mm ; for the revolver , I would go with the Ruger GP100 ( stainless ) with a six inch barrel . I currently have both of these firearms , and they are great shooters , and tough as nails . I would avoid the 45 unless you reload as the ammo is quite expensive . Just my two cents worth......
 
Folks. Please school me on what an L frame and "pre lock" is

I'm going to wait to a good deal to come up preferably at my club or locally so I can check out the firearm in person. I might as well know exactly what to look for.
The S&W L frame refers to, basically, the size of the gun series. IIRC, J frame is smallest, K is next, L is bigger and N is the biggest revolver frame S&W makes. The L frame was designed to handle full magnum loads. They found the K frame to shoot loose after prolonged Magnum loads so the L frame was born.
A pre-lock S&W is one made, I think, before 2001(?) Some newer ones ( or all newer ones?) have a little lock just above the cylinder latch on the left side of the gun. Once engaged, the gun cannot be fired. Like a safety for a revolver. The problem is, unlike a semi safety, this needs a little key wrench thingy to lock and unlock it. Peoples concerns with the newer lock models are: 1) the latch looks ugly compared to the older ones due to the cutout and 2) people fear, whether true or false, that the lock could self engage at a critical time rendering the gun inoperable. Depends what you want to use the gun for, I guess....
 
The S&W L frame refers to, basically, the size of the gun series. IIRC, J frame is smallest, K is next, L is bigger and N is the biggest revolver frame S&W makes. The L frame was designed to handle full magnum loads. They found the K frame to shoot loose after prolonged Magnum loads so the L frame was born.
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They actually have one bigger now, the .460 and .500 X-Frame revolvers.
 
I do reload rifle with a single stage; for accuracy and enjoyment. I think I'd want to find room to put a turret or progressive if I got much into handgun. For the amount I intend to shoot I can stick with the single stage for now.
 
Regarding the silly lock. Not related to handgun, but had the lock render my Ranch Hand inoperable due to self engagement. Hammer wouldn't fall. Others may be more reliable, this one went south, gun runs fine without the lawyer crap. To point the op in another direction, I get a lot of satisfaction with the single action 44 mag super blackhawk. No hurry, load, #### , fire and smile. The BHP gets the nod for hurried times.
 
For myself a HUGE part of why I have my handguns is for the sporting competitions. Shooting bullseye is OK now and then and I do enjoy it for the focusing on accuracy that it provides. But the handgun activity that puts a really big silly "kid with a big ice cream cone" look on my face is when I'm using my handguns in one of the speed shooting style competitions.

So before you say that you won't use your handguns very often I'd urge you to at least attend some of the matches for various styles of competition in your area. See if there's something that clicks perhaps.

And now onto the guns themselves.

Folks already mentioned the S&W 686. It fits your desire for stainless and it is a premium choice for use in some of the competition classes for revolver. Only a half step below the S&W, IMO, is a Ruger GP100. I simply prefer the trigger on the S&W more than the Ruger.

For a semi auto you're really limiting your options by insisting on stainless steel. There's many great shooting and great feeling guns that don't come in stainless. In 9mm the Browning Hi Power comes to mind. And for 1911's there's many great makes and models that again are only in blued steel. If this gun will be primarily a shoot seldom sort of gun I'd go for one of these options. These are pretty much the two classic handguns that have the most history.

But if you go look at some of the matches in your area and decide to give it a try then the handgun will become more of a tool than an ornament. Now you can consider giving up historical appeal and focus on function. That opens up the options a LOT. There's the Glock mentioned above.... someone ALWAYS mentions the Glock :D. And there's a host of other options. I find that the CZ's I use for such shooting are amazing tools. I use a Shadow for IPSC and an older pre-B style 75 for IDPA. Both weld to my hand like I was born with them and both shoot amazingly accurately when shot slowly for bullseye. And both work well at the speeds I shoot in matches for rapid fire.

There's no doubt that a 1911 and a Hi Power CAN be used for such matches but the single action only can force you into a category that you may not want to enter. On the other hand ANY collection that includes handguns should have at least one, if not both, of these classics. From there you can add the more practical "tools" for competitions. And even if you're bumped to a somewhat higher category by their use at least the Hi Power or 1911 will get your feet in through the door and you can get a taste of what gunning while running is all about.

And finally, if you do forego the idea of entering in speed related competitions and ONLY buy one each to round out your collection I strongly urge you to include a single action revolver as well. And for the difference it offers and the peak back at the guns of the old west I suggest a Uberti or Pietta over the Ruger NM Vaquero. The Ruger is a lovely gun. But the action doesn't use the "proper" design any longer. The Italian clones are actually faithful copies of the original 1873 style action. And for me that's a part of their appeal. But if the idea of stainless over blued has you trapped fully then a stainless Vaquero would not be a bad way to go.
 
I would also agree with the posts reccomending the 686. I love mine with a 6" barrel and aftermarket grips. My favourite automatic is a Sig P226 but they are hard to find in stainless and not everyone likes Sigs.
 
Pistol: Something in 9mm if I didn't reload. For that, in stainless, I'd go CZ series or SAM 1911 commander.

Revolver in stainless? S&W 686 hands down. Probably something in a 4.2" if you don't have 12(6). If do then I'd go Model 66 in 4".

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