Okay, I'm going to expand a little on my own thread. I couldn't agree with you guys more about just shooting for fun. In those golden days of yore, I blew off hundreds of rounds of .303 and .308 ammo when milsurp stuff was cheap and common, and had a blast (pardon the pun) in the doing of it. Now as we know, good surplus stuff is rare, and when it shows up at all, it's generally pretty pricey. My primary game-getters are a Ruger .308 heavy barrel, and an easier carry 8mm Steyr M95. I don't have a place to reload, which may change down the road, so I'm shooting factory stuff. In the case of the Steyr, I get tack driver accuracy with Winchester 8mm factory ammo, so I wouldn't bother getting the components to reload even if I had the space and time. I've been stockpiling that particular ammo so I'll have enough to last me the rest of my probable hunting career. Case in point! When I sighted it in last year, my first shot was about 5 in. right and 6 in. high. My buddy walked the hairs of the scope on to the bull, and my next 3 were in a nickel sized group. Do the math. I'm out 4 rounds, I may get 1 or at most 2 shots at a deer over the week I have to hunt. Thats 5-6 rounds over a season. A factory box will last me about 4 years, so ten boxes should last about 35-40 yrs. I'm looking for a reasonable SKS as a fun shooter as I think the ammo should be available for some time, and I blow off the .22 or the .22 mag for fun and to keep my eye tuned up. When the chance presents itself, I'll do some groundhog hunting as well. We "still" hunt, so I'm happy to say that I've never needed more than one shot to bring down my deer, but when I get back into reloading I'll blow off more .308 for fun than I do now. The value of the "one-shot" sight in lies in the fact that if you're low on ammo, or shooting some oddball calibre, you can get your scope where you need it to be without burning off too possibly scarce ammunition. Nuff said?