One year alone in the remote wilderness...

i picked the .17HMR/12 because Savage doesnt offer .22LR over 12 guage, just .22LR over 20 guage :)

but yeah id probably take the .22LR over 12g if they still made them.

then again the .22 over 20 guage isnt bad either, since the 20g shells would be lighter than 12g so you could pack more. yeah a 12g slug would be 'better' vs a bear, but the goal is to balance effectiveness with weight, not to provide the absolute 'ideal' for every situation.
brenneke makes 20g slugs:
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H4831 said:
Survival in the bush is first, you must dry your wet clothes before you try to sleep at night and you must have a dry place to sleep. Finding water will be no probem. To provide yourself with fire and shelter you need an axe. A good axe. To shoot food a light, 22 single shot rifle is OK, and shorts are the best ammo for it. You can carry a large number of shorts, and they do far less damage to meat on squirrels, grouse, etc, than does long rifle ammo. Protection? What from? Certainly not from wolves, a wilderness black bear won't bother you and it is unlikely you would even see a grizzly, let alone one that may bother you.
In the magazine, "The Backwoodsman," there is a long article on nothern survival, in the current issue, Nov/Dec, now on the shelves of magazine stores.
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All good points........this is the type of discussion I was hoping this thread would generate. I agree that the Northern BC woods are "safe" overall, still, I would sleep one hell of a lot better knowing I could kill a bear or wolf if need be. I had a bear go after my food in the middle of the night while I was camping in a Provincial Park this summer and I would have given anything to have a powerful firearm in my hands. It's a mental thing for sure.........I still think a .17 HMR with it's greater range and energy is a better choice than a .22.
 
A Ruger stainless 77/22 in 22 mag with Leupold 4X scope.

Can't believe I'm the only person that would carry a 22mag. The ammo isn't must larger than 22LR but it is much more powerful.
 
seeing the 22/12 is not available the .17/12 would be the smartest choice IMO anyway .
Definately not the coolest , but you'll eat well .
 
A .22/410 combination could see a person through a year in the remote wilderness. I might consider a chunk or two of snare wire of various gages as it might just bode well for staking the larder for the winter.
 
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Bronco Boy said:
All good points........this is the type of discussion I was hoping this thread would generate. I agree that the Northern BC woods are "safe" overall, still, I would sleep one hell of a lot better knowing I could kill a bear or wolf if need be. I had a bear go after my food in the middle of the night while I was camping in a Provincial Park this summer and I would have given anything to have a powerful firearm in my hands. It's a mental thing for sure.........I still think a .17 HMR with it's greater range and energy is a better choice than a .22.
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You just said it. You were camped in a park!
You will note that I referred to "WILDERNESS," black bears. It's the bears that have gotten used to people that are dangerous. Also, It was proven that wolves killed the fellow in northern Saskatchewan two years ago. These wolves had been feeding on the garbage dump for years, and had nothing but contempt for people. This was the first proven case of wolves killing a human, anywhere in Canada, ever! The wolves in the wilderness of northern BC won't come anywhere near you.
Two of us were once sleeping in a tiny tent on a back pack trip in northern BC. We were camped one night beside an old, long abandoned, guides trail up the mountain. In the morning we discovered a grizzly bear had come walking down our path from the mountain. When he was about 100 yards from our tent he left the trail. About a hundred yards below our camp, he again picked up the trail and followed it for three or four miles down the mountain! There was no snow on the ground, so we couldn't see how far he went around our tent, but he obviously steered clear of us, and any smells he may have picked up, of what we had eaten at supper. I am not a bit afraid of a wilderness grizzly attacking me while I sleep. But in grizzly habitat I take great care not to get in a position where I may accidently stumble onto one, especially when it is eating.
By the way, an over ###ed, irate bull moose in the rutting season, once chased a BC game warden and me up a tree! The same warden a week of so later, in a completely different area, was again forced to climb up a tree to save himself from another bull moose. And none of you guys mentioned the hazard from a moose in rutting season!
 
a Drilling 12x12 with 7x65 from Sauer&Sohn weight only 3,5 KG ( 7x65 R compare to .30-06 ) with iron sights and a scope with an EAW - Mount. Take the scope off and on without sight in again. Inside one 12 gauge Barrel you can mount a .17 HMR barrel ( or .22 mag or .22 Hornet ) from Lothar Walther the Drilling has got two trigger, once hinge open and close two shots.
Those Drillings shots very accurate.
 
I don't know what this obsession for 22's and shooting small game is...A guy could starve to death plinking ptarmigan, grouse and squirrels...

You are in Northern BC- Shoot a moose on day one. Spend the rest of the week relaxing around camp, eating fresh moose and making jerky. When you get low on jerky, shoot another moose. Repeat.:)
 
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