Ontario Antlerless deer draw

Kathleen has to do something to pay for those Hydro exec raises and cuts to our bills. Look, she wouldn't ask for it if she didn't need it, would she?
 
On Hwy 35 just outside of the hamlet of Cameron, a man has cut some plywood to look like flames. On it, he has written "Fire Kathleen Wynne" I think he has a lot of company in that view. She's done us no favours.

50 bucks to go deer hunting, if it ALL goes to conservation, is not an issue for me.
 
Yep, getting to the point I can get food from the grocery store for cheaper than hunting. Case in point, you can get a Butterball turkey gutted, defeathered, bagged and ready for the oven cheaper than a turkey tag, not including ammo, gear and your time. Very sad
 
maple leaf said:
Yep, getting to the point I can get food from the grocery store for cheaper than hunting. Case in point, you can get a Butterball turkey gutted, defeathered, bagged and ready for the oven cheaper than a turkey tag, not including ammo, gear and your time. Very sad
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Getting to?...... if the license was free, grocery meat would still be cheaper.... although nowhere near as good.....
 
maple leaf said:
Yep, getting to the point I can get food from the grocery store for cheaper than hunting.
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Hunting has never been about cheap meat... if you add it all up down to the penny, most of us could buy several beef cattle a year for what we spend on hunting... the healthy wild game meat is just a bonus.
 
Yes, it seems more expensive when you buy deer, moose, bear, turkey, small game, a fishing license and then buy all of those for your wife and two kids, too.
 
Slooshark1 said:
Yes, it seems more expensive when you buy deer, moose, bear, turkey, small game, a fishing license and then buy all of those for your wife and two kids, too.
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The problem is that people relate licence cost to meat cost.......

It's not designed around a per pound cost of meat...... it's designed around both recreation and cost of supporting it....
 
I look at it this way..... We are getting ripped off, they (the government) are taking advantage of us hunters. Hunting is a way to "Manage" the Nations Resources. So since I am managing the resources for the people of Ontario, why am I paying for it. The way I see it, the government should be collecting money from all Ontario residents then paying us (licenced game Managers) to help them accomplish their management goals :) ....

Edit: I should get a reduced auto insurance covered for every deer I take out too.
 
fratri said:
I look at it this way..... We are getting ripped off, they (the government) are taking advantage of us hunters. Hunting is a way to "Manage" the Nations Resources. So since I am managing the resources for the people of Ontario, why am I paying for it. The way I see it, the government should be collecting money from all Ontario residents then paying us (licenced game Managers) to help them accomplish their management goals :) ....

Edit: I should get a reduced auto insurance covered for every deer I take out too.
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I like the way you think!
 
Except somehow I doubt much of the money actually goes to supporting it. General revenue. Makes mamma Wynnes friends very rich.

Superbrad said:
The problem is that people relate licence cost to meat cost.......

It's not designed around a per pound cost of meat...... it's designed around both recreation and cost of supporting it....
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Superbrad said:
The problem is that people relate licence cost to meat cost.......

It's not designed around a per pound cost of meat...... it's designed around both recreation and cost of supporting it....
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That's what really galls me. If, as it was originally supposed to, every license dollar went to wildlife programs (ideally, enforcement would be paid for from general revenue) - reintroducing lost species, improving habitat, etc. If that were the case, I would buy licenses for critters I don't even hunt. But the government takes in the money, puts it in general revenue, then cuts MNR budgets. A few years ago, I was talking toa CO. He was telling me (not sure if it is true), but they were apparently down to $300 a month for gas. That'll go a long way in NW Ontario. It's why they must often team up with the OPP. Again, if this isn't true, I stand corrected, but it's what I was told by a CO.
 
Fratri.....I like your line of thinking as I'm sure many others in our brother/sisterhood would as well....many many moons ago we did a cost analysis of our deer hunt and broke it down to dressed meat $ pre pound and I honestly don't recall the figure we came up with but basically we could of bought a weeks worth of grocery essentials for one....we never did that again....I'd be scared to see a breakdown like that nowadays...the monies, we are told goes directly back into our natural resources but who the heck knows for sure....if it actually does I have no problems paying the fees associated...good luck to all in the woods!


fratri said:
I look at it this way..... We are getting ripped off, they (the government) are taking advantage of us hunters. Hunting is a way to "Manage" the Nations Resources. So since I am managing the resources for the people of Ontario, why am I paying for it. The way I see it, the government should be collecting money from all Ontario residents then paying us (licenced game Managers) to help them accomplish their management goals :) ....

Edit: I should get a reduced auto insurance covered for every deer I take out too.
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lj007 said:
Except somehow I doubt much of the money actually goes to supporting it. General revenue. Makes mamma Wynnes friends very rich.
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Papaclaude said:
That's what really galls me. If, as it was originally supposed to, every license dollar went to wildlife programs (ideally, enforcement would be paid for from general revenue) - reintroducing lost species, improving habitat, etc. If that were the case, I would buy licenses for critters I don't even hunt. But the government takes in the money, puts it in general revenue, then cuts MNR budgets. A few years ago, I was talking toa CO. He was telling me (not sure if it is true), but they were apparently down to $300 a month for gas. That'll go a long way in NW Ontario. It's why they must often team up with the OPP. Again, if this isn't true, I stand corrected, but it's what I was told by a CO.
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I am not saying that they manage the money well.... But it doesn't go into the general revenue anymore.... Hasn't for quite a while.....

https://www.ontario.ca/page/how-fishing-and-hunting-fees-are-used#section-1
 
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