Ontario Fat deer

[BIGREDD]

This year I did something different and left the bone in the loins and rib portions cutting them into 1" chops. They were excellent on the Q. I normally bone the loins and have had good luck in the past doing this. Oh well, even old farts can learn stuff ........ except BR, of course.

YOU CAN'T LEARN NUTHIN WHEN YOU ALREADY KNOW IT ALL....


When we cut our chops this way we always take pains to wipe the dust off... but your right they are awesome on the Q with the bone in.
Now if we could only get J/C to quit hanging his deer wrong side up!!!!

 

[SuperCub]

Move back to Ontario SC, you'll get a lot of business.

The trouble with getting into cutting game is that it takes all your time during hunting season. Comes down to a choice ... hunt or cut.

I would move bact to Ont, but nowhere near the GTA. I would like to come back for a hunt in the next few years. I rigged up my 870 with a FR cantelever bbl just for that very trip. Also have a 270 or two here depending on the location.


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[thebaron]

I croc-potted a roast last night with onions, mushrooms and green peppers, was as tender as they get. My little guy was a spikehorn shot in VMU 67, he didn't have much fat on him.

 

[SuperCub]

We pot roast all the deer/moose roast we get.

First roll rst in flour. This step is important as it pre-makes your gravy.
Brown rst in veg/olive oil in dutch oven. Remove rost
Add and brown onions/toadstools/peppers/celery to taste after browning rst.
When all is brown, rst go back into pot w/veggies.
Pour in boiling water to about half high on rst.
Slam on lid ........ tight!
Turn down heat to easy simmer.
Give it a couple or more hours till ready.


NOTE ...... Because this a POT roast it is done in a dutch oven (big pot) on top of the stove, not in the oven as many would do it.

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[dumbdawg]

and i thought it would have something to do with cannabis

 

[lcq]

My deer in Lanark was fat as a pig, eating farmer Johns corn and soy probably had something to do with it but the wet summer kept all things green very lush.

Brian

 

[gitrdun]

This butcher like every other competent wild game butcher I know bones out everything before cutting and will not use water on wild game meat except as a last resort!

Bigredd: is there a problem with using water to wash the meat? I've done it and really haven't noticed anything. But then again, I could be missing something here.

 

[John Y Cannuck]

Bigredd: is there a problem with using water to wash the meat? I've done it and really haven't noticed anything. But then again, I could be missing something here.

No problem if the water is clean drinking water. IMO.
But, using water from a lake , stream, or roadside puddle is a good way to introduce some nasty bacterial stuff to your meat.

 

[SuperCub]

No problem if the water is clean drinking water. IMO.

OH SURE ........ just when this thread was about to die off, you had to go and say THIS!


IBTL

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[BIGREDD]

Damp meat spoils faster than dry meat as it encourages bacterial growth regardless of whether it is clean water. Obviously clean water is better if you have to use it. Butchers hate working with wet meat... it is slippery and they know that the quality is suspect if it has been washed.
If you have created a mess inside of your deer or on the meat use paper towels and as LITTLE water as possible to wipe it out.
The best way to clean a deer is with a KNIFE... and if you shoot it properly and field dress it properly there is no need to be hosing your deer down.

 

[SuperCub]

Damp meat spoils faster than dry meat as it encourages bacterial growth regardless of whether it is clean water.

Once again BR is absolutely correct .... damp meat does encourage bacterial growth!

BUT ... Rinsing meat off and allowing it to remain damp are two very different things.

That's why after you wash the carcass out with clean water, it is dried off and allowed to hang in a cold, non-humid environment. Hanging game in humidity will spoil meat fast and every time.

I washed my deer after skinning and allowed it to hang for 9 days in a proper environment. There was NO spoilage between the hams and the tenderloins (which were left in) were absolutely perfect. These are the two areas that will spoil first.


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[Pintail]

There was NO spoilage between the hams and the tenderloins (which were left in) were absolutely perfect. These are the two areas that will spoil first.
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You didn't eat the tenderloins yet?!?!?!

I have heard the reason for hanging deer head down was to stretch out the rear legs (making them more tender).
Love your "aging" process, I wish I had a place to do that!!! YUM!!

 

[BIGREDD]

Why did you have to wash it Super? How did it get all dirty? Do your hands shake when you are field dressing your deer? Did you ass shoot the fawn?
I have more questions when you are ready.
I'm somewhat serious.

 

[SuperCub]

I have more questions when you are ready.
I'm somewhat serious.

My somewhat serious reply .......

Why did you have to wash it Super? How did it get all dirty?

I like to wash the hair off it, if for no other reason. I hate cutting deer with hair on the carcass, and NO, it wasn't all dirty. Actually, it was pretty clean when I was done gutting.

Do your hands shake when you are field dressing your deer?

No, my hands weren't shaking. It wasn't the first time I've used a knife. I use a small knife for this job as it is alot easier to do a neater job. If I was shooting +300lb deer like you shoot all the time, I could use a MUCH bigger knife.

Did you butt shoot the fawn?

No, it was a neck shot on a 7pt buck with a 257Roberts. I was going to use my 270WSM, but I wasn't feeling all that ghey when I choose the gun for the day's hunt.


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[BIGREDD]

Good answers Super.... you have successfully circumvented all future sarcastic questions that I had prepared... darn!
Seriously... and I am certain you already know this... for hair on the meat I take a damp terry-cloth (Veletta kitchen cloths work too!) and wipe the hair off it works like a clothes brush.
I hope you know that I consider you one of the most knowledgeable hunters/meat cutters/advice givers on the board. The jovial banter is only meant to illicit debate and generate advice for the unaware and newly initiated hunters.

 

[beretta boy]

BIGREDD is just a tease ... and likes pulling people's chains !

But like SuperCub ... he's been there, done that, AND has both the hat
T-Shirt & bumper sticker !

Nothin' like hard won, first hand experiance !

( You can pretty much tell a guy's deer hunting accumen by the size
and shape of his hunting knife ... and whether or not he actually knows how to sharpen it ! )

 

[Rick Teal]

JYC:

THis topic seems to have wandered a bit, but back to your inquiry, from the numbers I've been hearing from the various big buck contests, you're probably right. However, the two deer I gutted this year (from Parry Sound) didn't show an abnormal amount of fat. Maybe the phenomenon is more related to areas where the deer can feed (at least part of the time) on agricultural crops.

 

[SuperCub]

Seriously... and I am certain you already know this... for hair on the meat I take a damp terry-cloth (Veletta kitchen cloths work too!) and wipe the hair off it works like a clothes brush.

That sounds like it might work. I gonna give it a try.

I hope you know that I consider you one of the most knowledgeable hunters/meat cutters/advice givers on the board.

Quite honestly there are many others on this board with a wealth more knowledge in the guns/hunting areas that what I will ever have. This is what makes these boards good. We can learn stuff one to another.

Meatcutting, I do know a thing or two about, but usually stay pretty quiet about alot of other stuff.

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[John Y Cannuck]

JYC:

THis topic seems to have wandered a bit, but back to your inquiry, from the numbers I've been hearing from the various big buck contests, you're probably right. However, the two deer I gutted this year (from Parry Sound) didn't show an abnormal amount of fat. Maybe the phenomenon is more related to areas where the deer can feed (at least part of the time) on agricultural crops.

The deer we shot at camp were far from agricultural crops Rick.
Acorns, beachnuts and cedar are the usual staples.
The beechnuts were incredible this year.
I also noticed an incredible amount of ironwood seed on the ground. Don't know what if anything feeds on that.