Ontario Ground Blind Hunters - update post #32

possible solution........ ??

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I left a comment. Honestly - If somebody shoots my pop-up blind, will the colour of it really make a difference? What am I to due with the blinds I already own? Do I have to throw them out?

Has anyone been shot because a blind was not orange in colour? Then why introduce this stupid regulation.
 
TakDriver said:
What about bears or turkeys? They see in color. Just saying..
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I believe what they are saying is if the season requires you to wear orange while hunting, then your blind should have some orange on it, because stepping into a camo blind renders your blaze orange useless. Therefore turkey hunters would not have to "orange up" their camo blinds, but bears yes, because you have to wear orange if you are bear hunting from the ground. Personally, I would throw something orange on the outside of my blind, because you never know what kind of idiot is hunting the same woods you are. (It doesn't matter if you are on private property, these same idiots don't know what private means)
It is your life you are taking the chance on by not wearing orange while hunting. (deer I'm talking about mainly) Yes there are idiots out there who missed the hunter safety part about identifying your target and background before shooting, but the chances are a lot better that they would recognize blaze orange in the background behind the deer they were going to shoot than a camo blind.

Do I think we need more regulations telling us to use our common sense knowledge and be safe in the hunting woods, absolutely not. But they powers that be put these laws out there because of the idiots, and the rest of us pay for it.
Just my 2 cents.
 
"...Blaze Orange cammo..." Doesn't count as the 400 square inches. Neither is an open mesh vest. For some daft reason.
"...too much to expect folks to..." There are thousands of hunters here who never, I say again, never, shoot except for deer season. Not even to sight in. That's a legacy of there being no public ranges. A lot of 'em will shoot at a sound too. Blaze orange gives you a chance.
"...regulations telling us to use our common sense..." Common sense can't be legislated.
 
7.62mm said:
People do have to realize, that in Ontario, there are quite a few more people out hunting on Crown Land, than most other provinces, I mean this is my assumption, but I think there are more people fighting for less hunting land in Ontario, compared to other provinces.

It is fairly conceivable, that someone could be in a ground blind, and there is a deer between it and another hunter 150 yards away. The camo is pretty good, that a hunter might not recognize it as such and shoot at a deer/moose, etc. and the backstop could be a another hunter in a well camoed ground blind! Is it that much to ask to stick a piece of orange on the blind? So someone could recognize it, and not make a grave decision. I am all for personal responsibility, but in this day and age, with litigation being what it is, families of dead people sue. So yes, you might make the decision to not have a piece of orange on the blind, but what happens when you get killed, and your daughter decides to sue the ass off a hunter that took a shot, missed the deer, and hit a you in a ground blind that he/she could not see because it was so well hidden. The deer/moose can't see colour, so what is the big deal?

Like I said, maybe this doesn't apply to different provinces, but Ontario can be pretty crowded with hunters vying for the same space!
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Matters not one bit!

A hunter is supposed to identify his target AND WHAT IS BEYOND IT before shooting!

Do these hunters also use the excuse that one animal was standing behind the other and get away with it NOT LIKELY!

If you cannot shoot safely you should not be hunting, end of story.
 
Of course the shooter is ultimately responsible for I identifying their target and the back ground behind it, but a ground blind user has to use common sense when setting up their blind also.

About five years ago I had one of my ground blinds set up on a fence line on my private property. My land is bordered by crown land, both my land and the crown land are heavy bush, except for the open fence line on MY side of the property line. I had my Montana decoy set on the line while I was hunting from my pop up blind one day. Not to attract, but to get a deer to pause and look at it while it crossed the fence line. The decoy is to my left (where I expected deer to cross from my set up), but occasionally I would look to my right. To my surprise as I looked to my right one time there was a hunter stalking my decoy. I was between him and my decoy and he couldn't pick out my blind. The line is only about 25'-30' wide and my blind stuck out onto the line (out of the bush) about 2 1/2 feet. Until I waved a blaze orange toque out the window of my blind he had no idea I was there. Once he saw me waving my toque at him he stopped, looked for a while and then turned and crossed the fence back into the crown land. I never saw him again.

I guess what I'm getting at is that, yes, I agree petty laws are stupid....but we as hunters have to use common sense and act safely while hunting also. If people get hurt the powers that be WILL pass laws like blaze orange on our blinds. Be careful how you set up, and make sure of your target and it's surroundings.
 
Glad this got shot down...orange should be optional, including on your person.

Orange, in my opinion, causes more injuries/deaths than it prevents. It gives the trigger happy boys a false sense of target...ie: if they dont see orange, blast away. Meanwhile, it could be someone out for a stroll in the woods.

In some cases, I have put orange up on my blind...I've even hung orange on the ladder of my tree stand when hunting more populated hunting grounds.

The common sense approach seems to be lost among our provincial law makers.
 
It is hard to have regulations on something as diverse and vast as hunting. You cant put one rule for all situations, therefore I am glad as well, and am hoping that people will use common sense and understand when it is appropriate to put orange on their blind and when not to, or even more importantly safe hunting practices so that they do not get themselves into the dangerous situation to begin with
 
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