Ontario hunting max rifle caliber

Big bear down said:
Well i must say I'm on a few forums on a reg basis one being a performance boating site as I have 2 offshore boats and the other being a custom motorcycle site as I have a custom chopper and have a large knowledge in these areas and I would never reply to a person with less knowledge this way.

I guess I have been introduced on my first day to one of the ass holes here on this site.
Your reply indicates your a teacher and man you should find another job.

These forums are for people to ask question and for others to help in anyway as we all have more knowledge than others but all in different ways.

Stop talking down to people as if you were there father. I'm glad you are knowledgable in this subject but I hope you never start a new interest in your life and ask any questions. He'll is that not what these sites are for.

Im not a new hunter but simply was sitting with my family tonight looking threw these forums for the first time and asked a question knowing the answer but posted the above as there is always someone with more knowledge that can add info or confirm what your needed to know

I look forward to being a part of this site and leaning from others as well as sharing what I know
It is not ignorant to ask questions bit it is if you don't and sir you are ignorant.
Please do not reply to the above or any other posts or comments I may have as I do not care what your thoughts are.
Regards
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Time to derail a bit. What are your boats?
 
rookie wildcat said:
Cool. Show me in the regs where it says that you can or cannot hunt with a . 50 Sharps, or a .700 Tyrannasaur, or a slingshot, or an atlatl, or an axe, or a broad-bladed spear, or a katana, or a set of nunchuks, or maybe even a handful of shuriken, or even a Swiss army knife? Go ahead, show me.
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That kind of proves my point. It actually doesn't say if you can or can not hunt with a certain caliber. You implied that all he had to do was read the regs and all his questions would be answered.
 
Gargoyle said:
Welcome to the site! Yup is the easy answer which some others have already stated, but same as another poster stated as well Southern Ontario is under a caliber restriction of below .275 (not really an issue where I live as there is no rifle season for big game other than muzzle loader). Don`t even think twice about the trolls on any site.. skip over there comments and don`t give them the enjoyment of knowing they pissed someone off as they sit in there basement not actually doing anything on the topics they so rudely comment on. I`ve been on this site for years and every once in a while come across comments like that but refuse to reply or comment on them as a norm... Giver hell with those big bores up north...
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Actually, I was in my bedroom, lying on the bed, watching a movie and I still had enough time to google the ON regs, check the regs, find the only max calibre restrictions, answer the OP all the while doing what the OP couldn't while he was trolling.
So after having checked this all out (while sitting in my basement not actually doing what I commented on) and using all of 20mins to do it, pretty much figured that the OP is just as lazy, since he didn't even try. Actually in a later post, he says he actually knew the answer, but wanted others to tell him and you think I'm a troll?
 
What confuses people the most, IMO, is they're looking for a restriction for deer, moose, and bear hunting, when in reality, there are none, because there are NO ACTUAL RIFLE SEASONS for those animals in southern ON.

Its only small game that have a restricted maximum calibre.
 
The calibre question was brought up in my PAL course. If I remember correctly the instructor mentioned the population density in Southern Ontario as the reason for the difference in calibre. (.270)

I could be wrong just regurgitating what was said.
 
Big bear down said:
Well i must say I'm on a few forums on a reg basis one being a performance boating site as I have 2 offshore boats and the other being a custom motorcycle site as I have a custom chopper and have a large knowledge in these areas and I would never reply to a person with less knowledge this way.

I guess I have been introduced on my first day to one of the ass holes here on this site.
Your reply indicates your a teacher and man you should find another job.

These forums are for people to ask question and for others to help in anyway as we all have more knowledge than others but all in different ways.

Stop talking down to people as if you were there father. I'm glad you are knowledgable in this subject but I hope you never start a new interest in your life and ask any questions. He'll is that not what these sites are for.

Im not a new hunter but simply was sitting with my family tonight looking threw these forums for the first time and asked a question knowing the answer but posted the above as there is always someone with more knowledge that can add info or confirm what your needed to know

I look forward to being a part of this site and leaning from others as well as sharing what I know
It is not ignorant to ask questions bit it is if you don't and sir you are ignorant.
Please do not reply to the above or any other posts or comments I may have as I do not care what your thoughts are.
Regards
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Well, since the definition of ignorant is "lacking in knowledge or comprehension of the thing specified" and coupled with the fact that I did, in fact, know the answer to your question when I made my post and you, obviously not knowing the definition of the word, ignorant, used it in error, making you, in fact the ignorant one. I have also used all the right words with their correct form of spelling them. You did not, obviously lacking further knowledge or comprehension of the written language.
Also, if I went on your performance boating forum and asked, "What is the largest engine I could put on my canoe and still compete in the International Offshore Powerboat Festival?" do you think anyone would find that ridiculous? Especially since I already know the answer?
 
levy said:
The calibre question was brought up in my PAL course. If I remember correctly the instructor mentioned the population density in Southern Ontario as the reason for the difference in calibre. (.270)

I could be wrong just regurgitating what was said.
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Which holds no weight as a 270 Winchester is much better long range alternative then a .44 rem mag in rifle, which isnt allowed. Or a 3030 for that matter. IMO its an archaic regulation and should be scrapped similar to the Sunday gun hunting regulation.
 
blasted_saber said:
What confuses people the most, IMO, is they're looking for a restriction for deer, moose, and bear hunting, when in reality, there are none, because there are NO ACTUAL RIFLE SEASONS for those animals in southern ON.

Its only small game that have a restricted maximum calibre.
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And that's because, at the time the restriction was enacted, the market was flooded with cheap surplus .303 Lee Enfields. Someone didn't like the idea of hunters using .303's to hunt woodchucks. The thought is that opening discussion on this restriction to have it struck down could result in new, more restrictive regulations in the applicable areas.
Yes, the .270 Win , 7mm Mag outshoot the .303, but at the time, if you plunked down a couple of hundred bucks for a 270, you might know what you were doing. Anybody could plunk down $28 for a Lee Enfield ( no PAL or FAC in those days) on a whim and start shooting woodchucks and gophers.
 
blasted_saber said:
Which holds no weight as a 270 Winchester is much better long range alternative then a .44 rem mag in rifle, which isnt allowed. Or a 3030 for that matter. IMO its an archaic regulation and should be scrapped similar to the Sunday gun hunting regulation.
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Totally agree with you there..... the .270 versus the 30/30 is a perfect example. On another note last time I was in Aylmer I picked up a list of areas in southern Ontario that do allow sunday gun hunting. Its actually a fairly long list ( my county is not on it though :( )
 
droid1963 said:
And to think that rookie wildcat owns guns.

(....on the roof in a clown suit with a 30.06....)

Welcome to CGN, big bear down. Lots of great folks here, and an ignore function for the others.
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The real thing to set the mind reeling is the fact that a man wants to buy a gun he has no idea if he can legally use it. On a roof, wearing whatever.
i believe that, had Big Bear Down properly phrased his interrogative in a manner detailing his conundrum rather than saying, in effect, "I think I might wanna buy a gun, can I use it anywhere?", he definitely would have received a more cogent resolution to his quandary.
 
I was always told by a college instructor, "It's not what you say but it's how you say it". You could have initially just told him "Depending on the area that you're hunting in there may be different caliber restrictions. Consult the Hunting Regulations book and you should find your answer" Instead you played the douchebag a$$hole card which didn't actually help anybody and made you look like an idiot. I hate to say it but it's attitude like you displayed that keeps people from enjoying hunting. If this guy was thinking about getting into hunting and this is the first answer he gets back.....think about it. Now criticize me for my spelling or whatever you'd like but it still remains that you gave him a douchebag answer that didn't help the topic at all. Sorry if this offends anybody but I was just venting. I hate seeing people on a board looking for help get the cold shoulder. If you don't want to help people, stay off the boards or don't post a comment.
 
blasted_saber said:
What confuses people the most, IMO, is they're looking for a restriction for deer, moose, and bear hunting, when in reality, there are none, because there are NO ACTUAL RIFLE SEASONS for those animals in southern ON.

Its only small game that have a restricted maximum calibre.
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Right. You can target shoot out back with your Lapua, but have to be less than .270 to shoot a groundhog...
 
I believe that some people on here are missing the point of the .270 or less for varmint hunting rule.

If someone is approached by a "warden" and they are carrying a rifle they can "claim" to be varmint hunting no matter what rifle they are carrying. (when they are really looking to poach a deer or moose)

So they made a law that you cannot carry a rifle of a caliber greater that .270 when it is varmint season to make it harder for "poachers" to claim they are varmint hunting with a large caliber rifle.

And I know that one could poach a deer with a .270 or a 22/250 etc. but they may cut down on it somewhat with that law.
 
That particular Ontario regulation ( i.e. caliber less than .275 ... in certain specified areas of southern Ontario) has been on the books for a very long time. A very senior Fish & Game administrator discussed it many years ago with me. It was his contention that the reg. was put forward some time after WWII to prevent the number of surplus military rifles with cheap FMJ ammo that were showing up - from being used for hunting ( varmint or deer) in built-up areas of the south.
 
Big Bear Down

Welcome to CGN, and yes you can use the calibres mentioned as long as your shoulder can take it. I doubt if the .275 reg will affect you as I don't think there are open rifle seasons in that area for the game you mentioned.
Lots of nice helpful folks on CGN, and as you have read a few undesirables waiting to pounce, not to worry eventually there overly tight underwear will cut off the oxygen supply to there wee brains resulting in peace in CGN land.

So do not be discouraged form posting your questions or thoughts as there are no dumb questions. Just dumb answers.
 
rookie wildcat said:
Cool. Show me in the regs where it says that you can or cannot hunt with a . 50 Sharps, or a .700 Tyrannasaur, or a slingshot, or an atlatl, or an axe, or a broad-bladed spear, or a katana, or a set of nunchuks, or maybe even a handful of shuriken, or even a Swiss army knife? Go ahead, show me.
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Actually, the first paragraph for each big game species states that they must only be hunted with a firearm, which includes bows...

In the firearms table, it also says centerfire yes, rimfire no, then the shotgun shot size regs for big game...

So his answer is clearly written in the regs. There is nothing confusing about it. Any centerfire cartridge...
 
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