Ontario-No Hog Hunting

Did the mnr say what they did with the trapped hogs? Slaughter, relocate? I'm just curious as to what their plan would be if they do start trapping them.

I would wonder if those were "feral" - as in farmed animals that escaped - if so, no consequences for that person that imported them and then could not control them?? Taxpayer will pay for that??
 
I don't believe they have the resources nor staffing to make this work.

While they are trying to catch the entire sounder, they forget that mature boars only spend time with a sounder (sows & their offspring) to breed, and will then move in search for another sow (sounder).

You can also look at youtube videos & see that catching the entire sounder is not an easy task. Most of the vids I've seen do not catch them all in one go even with cameras & remote door releases.

IMHO this initiative is doomed to fail. They will then go back to shoot on sight...

I wonder if thats the entire plan? Or are they banning pig hunting so that people don't transport them around in hopes of establishing a huntable population in their neck of the woods?

In some states in the USA they are banning pig hunting for this very reason. It has been shown time and again that hunting does not work to eradicate pigs... And they didn't walk from Texas to Pennsylvania, they got a ride in the back of a pickup truck...
 
I don't believe they have the resources nor staffing to make this work.

While they are trying to catch the entire sounder, they forget that mature boars only spend time with a sounder (sows & their offspring) to breed, and will then move in search for another sow (sounder).

You can also look at youtube videos & see that catching the entire sounder is not an easy task. Most of the vids I've seen do not catch them all in one go even with cameras & remote door releases.

IMHO this initiative is doomed to fail. They will then go back to shoot on sight...

This ^^^^^^^^^
 
Not every farmer/landowner is a hunter.
Not every farmer/landowner has the time to hunt them.

The bylaw in my region explicitly says the animal: a) "a human being is not an animal" lmao, irrelevant here but I found it hilarious. b) "poses an immediate threat to property." - hunting them down is still an infraction.
 
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Not every farmer/landowner is a hunter.
Not every farmer/landowner has the time to hunt them.

Yes it costs money. But hunting doesn't have a meaningful impact on their numbers, so unless you've got a better plan???

As long as hunting is legal it creates an incentive for people to do things that do NOT help get rid of them - things like not shooting the little ones (30lb piglets make ####ty Instagram posts after all) and transporting them around to attempt to establish new areas to hunt them, and even if those things didn't happen there is still the potential issue of hunting pressure causing them to disperse faster than natural. Simply put, hunting will never solve the problem, and it has a very real chance of making it worse. Thus, banning hunting is a GOOD IDEA, as long as the government is still actively working to solve it via other more successful methods.

The bylaw in my region explicitly says the animal: a) "a human being is not an animal" lmao, irrelevant here but I found it hilarious. b) "poses an immediate threat to property." - hunting them down is still an infraction.

I would think any wild pig on your property is an immediate threat.
 
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I don't believe they have the resources nor staffing to make this work.

While they are trying to catch the entire sounder, they forget that mature boars only spend time with a sounder (sows & their offspring) to breed, and will then move in search for another sow (sounder).

You can also look at youtube videos & see that catching the entire sounder is not an easy task. Most of the vids I've seen do not catch them all in one go even with cameras & remote door releases.

IMHO this initiative is doomed to fail. They will then go back to shoot on sight...

If you watch enough hog hunting and trapping videos you'll notice its common for one man to trap an entire group of a dozen or more hogs in one night with corral type traps while most hunting videos will show 1-2 animals being taken before the rest of the group scatters. The corral type traps work so well with hogs because once one goes in the rest of the group will naturally follow this "decoy" often resulting in the whole group of various age classes getting trapped. The only effective shooting comes from chasing them with a helicopter or a vehicle at night with night vision, neither of which we'll ever see here.


This is like trying to remove sparrows or pigeons from a barn. You can kill one or two here and there with guns, but you'll never get them all. You'll only encourage some to leave for less dangerous land, thus spreading the problem while educating these animals to avoid humans. However, switch to a live multi catch trap and the first animal in decoys the rest to join him for a meal.
 
If you watch enough hog hunting and trapping videos you'll notice its common for one man to trap an entire group of a dozen or more hogs in one night with corral type traps while most hunting videos will show 1-2 animals being taken before the rest of the group scatters. The corral type traps work so well with hogs because once one goes in the rest of the group will naturally follow this "decoy" often resulting in the whole group of various age classes getting trapped. The only effective shooting comes from chasing them with a helicopter or a vehicle at night with night vision, neither of which we'll ever see here.


This is like trying to remove sparrows or pigeons from a barn. You can kill one or two here and there with guns, but you'll never get them all. You'll only encourage some to leave for less dangerous land, thus spreading the problem while educating these animals to avoid humans. However, switch to a live multi catch trap and the first animal in decoys the rest to join him for a meal.

Helicopters and vehicles might increase the kill count but they're still not going to eradicate them.

As an aside, places that sell helicopter hunts in Texas are not interested in getting rid of all the pigs. They are either raising them or buying trapped pigs from other properties. (No pigs=no hunts to sell after all). And the pigs all go to waste, can't safely recover them while the whirlybird is still airborne, and they rot in the sun before you can get to em after the bird is grounded.
 
Not every farmer/landowner is a hunter.
Not every farmer/landowner has the time to hunt them.


Trapped ($ ching) and euthanized ($ ching) Autopsied ($$$ching ching) and sampled (more $ ching) to understand health and habitat. https://globalnews.ca/video/rd/69855...6/?jwsource=cl

I'm not sure what your point is. Invasive species are a threat to everyone. I see lots of invasive buckthorn and dog strangling vines when I walk in the nearby Hydro right of way. The local community group can't get the utility company to pay workers, but they gave the group a couple $$ on expenses on successive Sunday mornings to limb, saw, pull and otherwise eradicate something that is too damned established for anyone's good. Those plants are on the fully established end of the spectrum. Wild hogs are at the opposite end. Spending $$ to eradicate the pests when they are a novelty and easy to spot makes sense to me. Animal biologists already spend a lot of effort in controlling and eradicating rabies, BSE and CWD. But it a new disease emerges, they go after it.
 
they re not able to get rid of them in the old continent ... if the pigs got the food you cannot get rid of them even with driven and running dogs ...

wish good luck to all that got them.
 
they re not able to get rid of them in the old continent ... if the pigs got the food you cannot get rid of them even with driven and running dogs ...

wish good luck to all that got them.

Well, the Eurasian hogs have had hundreds of years to establish themselves, partially protected. We're in the early days and might still have a chance if we act promptly and decisively.

Grizz
 
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