Ontario Spring Bear Hunt

Superbrad said:
You are in Burlington and calling others "Cityots".... bahahahhahah
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What actions of mine make me a Cityot? Just being in Burlington? Well I spend 3 months a year maintaining a trap line 1.5hrs North East of The Sue. Most of my childhood was spent in Haliburton. And I could ATVs circles around you.
Before you judge a man walk a mile in his shoes or some stupid cliche thing that it says in Your signature! I bet my wife would do better in the bush than you and my dogs are more usefull than yours to. Cityots don't know the term, it's our word for them.
 
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30-06BangStix said:
What actions of mine make me a Cityot? Just being in Burlington? Well I spend 3 months a year maintaining a trap line 1.5hrs North East of The Sue. Most of my childhood was spent in Haliburton. And I could ATVs circles around you.
Before you judge a man walk a mile in his shoes or some stupid cliche thing that it says in Your signature! I bet my wife would do better in the bush than you and my dogs are more usefull than yours to. Cityots don't know the term, it's our word for them.
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Voted and kind of expected to see this response. Just because someone’s location isn’t outside a city doesn’t mean they are from there. Not everyone in the city thinks bears shouldn’t be hunted, several have cottages north of Barrie and see the problems first hand.
 
I agree that bear numbers should be controlled. Niusance bears removed. The only worry i have is that female bears come out of the den and leave the cubs behind. The hunter should be able to tell if the bear they see is male or female before shooting. If a nursing female is taken, it may leave cubs to starve and reduce further hunts by 3 or possibly 4 bears. The hide is not as nice as the fall hide and because they do not eat the hibernation months, the meat is not as good to eat either. Hunting is a priveldge we all covet, but caution should be taken to sustain our future hunts. Just my opinion. I hunt bear but only fall bears with no cubs.
 
Actually, if you talk to most taxidermists, they will recommend a spring bear for rugs etc. Fall bears may be larger, but they will no have a winter coat grown in like they do in spring. We shot a fall bear and hide quality would not support a rug. Hope it goes through for the guys wanting to have the opportunity, my votes submitted.
 
Winnipeg Toymaker said:
I agree that bear numbers should be controlled. Niusance bears removed. The only worry i have is that female bears come out of the den and leave the cubs behind. The hunter should be able to tell if the bear they see is male or female before shooting. If a nursing female is taken, it may leave cubs to starve and reduce further hunts by 3 or possibly 4 bears. The hide is not as nice as the fall hide and because they do not eat the hibernation months, the meat is not as good to eat either. Hunting is a priveldge we all covet, but caution should be taken to sustain our future hunts. Just my opinion. I hunt bear but only fall bears with no cubs.
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Partner, I mean no disrespect but you bought the BS line they gave for cancelling the spring season and do not understand black bear biology... Allow me...

Bear cubs are born in January and February in the den, the cubs find their sleepy moms teat and nurse until the end of March/ April until the sow exits the den with her very new offspring... Twins are most common, with singles and triplets approximately equally common. During the first few months, the cubs stick very close to the sow and she keeps them tight to her side... NOTE; this period covers the spring season! If you want to have 100% positive I'd on bear ###, it would be seeing the sow WITH the cubs... No juvenile or adult male will travel with a cub, "unless" it is in their stomach... The single biggest predator of black bear cubs is Male black bears... The cubs will stay with the mother for a year and a half, right through the first denning cycle and until she gets ready to breed again the following June, at which time she drives the cubs off... Cubs are MOST vulnerable prior to their first denning cycle...

Here is the problem with your "fall hunt only" theory... In the fall the cubs are more idependant of the sow and will make forray's away from her for varying lengths of time... This is when the sow is MOST in danger of being misidentified and shot as a boar... Also note that the cubs are still highly vulnerable to predation until the following spring...

Long story, longer... If you really are concerned about the ### of your quarry bear and the possibility of orphaning cubs... Then you SHOULD be hunting the spring NOT the fall...

Don't be fooled that Harris and Snobolen weren't appraised of this by biologists before cancelling the spring season... The whole "orphaned cub" thing was a SMOKE SCREEN for an "expedient political decision."
 
Sorry hoytcanon...i read no written stuff on any spring hunt issue. If you read the statement, surely you seen the .."just my opinion" written therein. I know the cycles of the bear...also have seen a lone female taken ( not by me) only to see on skinning that she had milk available and obvious suckled teats. So some females must leave cubs behind, most likely in the den. As for fall hunts, the cubs can survive on thier own if mom is taken, but usually they stay very close. Again " just my opinion" no one influnces me.
 
Only a small percentage of lone cubs survive the first denning cycle... The fact remains that fewer females are mistakenly taken in the spring than in the fall... The only time females and cubs are seperated in the spring is if there is threat of danger... The sow will "woof" sending the cubs up a tree for protection, then she will either confront the threat or run-off in an attempt to lead the danger away from the cubs... She will return to gather the cubs when the threat is gone... The cubs will stay put until the sow returns... Mistakes happen in the spring often because the very small cubs are not seen in the long grass or shrubs...
 
"Sudbury city council has opted in to the two year pilot program for the spring bear hunt. That decision was made at council last night. Ever since the MNR stopped responding to bear nuisance calls back in 2012, the bears have become a big problem in certain areas. Timmins and North Bay have also opted into the pilot program."

This is good for us here in Sudbury but other northern towns are not so lucky.

"Cochrane is 97% covered by Unit 27 and about 3% by Unit 30. Only Unit 30 is part of the hunt. In Cochrane we had 70 incidents this year with almost all of them in Unit 27."

Will see how the MNR deals with this issue.
 
Done, but no is still ahead. Why do morons who have never even seen a bear before get an opinion in an issue that is taking place 4 or more hours north of them.
 
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