Ontario Transfer Wait Times?

Milanczar said:
If you want somebody to make a difference its not going to be the Ontario Ombudsman unless you are drinking the koolaid straight from the bottle.

I post here for the information of the members and to show what is transpiring and for my amusement.

Perhaps take the time to look at the Ontario Ombudsman track record.

The Ombudsman's purpose is to appear that there is a safety valve while deflecting problems that they do not solve as they involve other parts of the Ontario gov which push
back much harder than the Ombudsman is willing or able to play even if they wanted to.

Most of what you see is smoke and mirrors and playfighting between the orgs for appearance sake and jurisdiction.

A couple of bones will be thrown out but serious problems are not going to be solved.

But hey, knock yourself out.

Its just as effective posting here (or doing just about anything else really) than wasting time dealing with the Ombudsman
on anything unless you have a lawyer in tow.

Besides I'm trying to set an Ontario Transfer delay record. ;)

Chances are that every time I post here I get moved back two weeks on the list. :)
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A simple No, I haven't, would've worked fine. If enough people complain, he can take action. But hey, why do anything. Just leave it for the rest of us to do it for you. Thanks for your help.

Best of luck with the transfer.
 
If enough people complain, he can take action.
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That is not how it works.

But ok, go on with the fantasy ride.

Don't think too hard about why things are the way like they are in the first place if the Ombudsman can save the day........

Ombudsman seems to have a lot of trouble with real problems like elder care access, special needs care delivery I'm sure they can look
after making sure you don't wait too long for your firearm more effectively and of course make sure it never happens again.

Maybe you should talk to some people who have brought problems to the Ombudsman to get a reality check that differs from the Ombudsman's
literature?

A simple No, I haven't, would've worked fine.
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Obvously not.

But hey, why do anything. Just leave it for the rest of us to do it for you.
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Sure works for me. Not holding my breath. Turn the lights out when you are done.

Thanks for your help
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You can personally count on me every time when the Ombudsman is not there for you! ;)
 
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3 weeks to the day. Private transfer AB to ONT. That's terrible service:eek: Had it been coming my way, 3 days max.

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Milanczar said:
If you want somebody to make a difference its not going to be the Ontario Ombudsman unless you are drinking the koolaid straight from the bottle.
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Ok what is your better idea then, don't crap on someones idea without an alternative.

It cant be just to 'accept it" bc you are complaining about it on here.

Cheers.
 
Ok what is your better idea then, don't crap on someones idea without an alternative.
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You will find that some problems don't have solutions but have worse alternatives.

The complaints to the ombud are perfect fodder to feed the need for the Province to find funds to improve service..............like an Ontario Firearms Registry.

Where does anyone complaining about service imagine the money for more staff is coming from?

They are not going to take away from programs giving away free money for not working to hire more staff to transfer guns.

The Liberals. LOL No way.

Sure Ontario has more population and firearms to register but they don't see it that way. Leveraging service calls as need for funding
and making us play for it is right up the playbook for how things really work.

Sure I have a better idea.

We are coming to an election and Ontario has been very quiet about its intentions with respect to Quebec's plan for a registry. Ontario sure needs the
money in the provincial coffers with all the give aways to buy the election.

They are going to try to ride the Quebec coat tails.

Who can take that risk?

The time to start working for the Conversatives in Ontario is now.

Election will be by June 2018 less than 12 months from now.


There is a better solution that calling the Ombudsman about an existing problem for individual solutions that they will make us pay for.


If you want a real solution it is electing a Conservative Government in Ontario.

That is the only (and its not perfect or great but its all we got) chance we have of making things better not worse.

So my suggestion is start now trying to help and get the word out for the Conservatives in Ontario.

The election in Ontario has to be held before June 7 2018.

It is less than a year away.

Time to start not catch up!

All we want is an increase in finding for better service.

Without having to pay for it.
 
^ Fair enough, but the way I see it they don't need to hire more staff, just step into, oh, say 2002? Or somewhere around there... Yeah I might volunteer for the Ontario PC party, not a big fan of Patrick Brown though, not sure he is a conservative in any way at all.
 
I was told it takes so long because we're keeping them so busy buying too many ARs and pistols and they don't have the budget to hire more. They have to keep the pretence of doing due diligence in every transfer too. I'm not gonna complain about a bureaucracy that refuses to expand and I'm happy knowing we're arming too fast for them to keep up. I'm also not going to stir the pot and encourage the SJWs to look for a solution. That can never end well. Patience pays on this one I think. If they are staffed with a bunch of liberal panty waisted pearl clutchers they must be too terrified to go ask the overlords for more staff to help Ontario get thousands more bad guns faster.
 
not a big fan of Patrick Brown though, not sure he is a conservative in any way at all.
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I hear you my friend but we are going to have to do what we can. It could be a better choice for sure but also
remember we have to peel away some liberal voters so they can't come over too blue and conservative otherwise
they just get the same limited base voting all the time.

I don't think the Ontario Liberals or NDP (heaven forbid) are going to treat us better.

The provincial governments are important also IMO as if we ever achieve a Federal pro firearm government (or let us say not anti firearm) then
support from as many like minded or at least neutral provinces is going to be important for any positive change.

Certainly having NDP or the Liberals running Ontario is not going to help in that case.

So we have to do what we can but agree 100% and also wish the choice in Ontario was better. :)

If you don't have time to volunteer (as many do not) then it is just as effective to start the speaking to folks about
what they feel is wrong with Ontario and the Liberals and trying to prime the pump for the Conservatives just by
speaking to people you have contact with.

Neighbours, etc. Nothing heavy or over the top just gentle prodding and speaking about everyday problems
like the cost of food, lack of real jobs, health care shortages and wait times etc etcspreads the word.

Every bit helps and word of mouth is just as important as volunteering
 
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I didn't read this whole thread but I did lodge a complaint with the delightful person helping me with a couple of transfers today. I asked if there's a place I can speak up to rally for more help for them. They gave me this email:

cfp-pcaf@rcmp-grc.gc.ca

I'll send one in. I admit it likely won't help but at least I can go to bed at night and tell myself I didn't just let it happen and do nothing...
 
Milanczar said:
I don't think the Ontario Liberals or NDP (heaven forbid) are going to treat us better.
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Ont seems to absolutely detest the NDP, PC, and now Libs... it seems as if the public has had bad experiences with them all, never been happy with any of them over the past 25 years, and does not care for any of them. Which is why, in such a strange twist, Wynne might win re-election as she simultaneously sets the record for lowest approval rating ever at 12%.

I worry that Mr. Brown, the ultra super light conservative will seem too similar to Wynne and wont excite conservative voters. The only way to beat these Neo Lib turds is to swing for the fences IMO.

I mean seriously, if the PC party cant win this next election how f&$ked up is that?

Sorry off topic... but anyway.
 
Victorious said:
Sold someone a pistol and did the transfer on May 3rd still waiting. Almost 2 months now.
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That is INSANE. Have you or the buyer called in CFC or CFO?

IMO private sales should be completed with more haste, a seller of an item once sold, does not want to hold the sold firearm indefinitely. Both seller and buyer want to get on with their lives. On the retail side, retailers are going to start getting upset that they have to find proper safe storage for all these Ontario "pending" transfers. Retailers want to move product not store it.

In 2016 I had five restricted transfers completed in 4-5 business days average. Now I am coming up to three to four weeks, three retail one private, I have put out over 11K and nothing to show for it yet. This is very frustrating mostly the lack of information from the Ontario CFO and random transfer times, some quick, others linger...why? And we all see the other provinces can complete transfers in a very timely manner.

The Ontario CFO owes us an explanation at this point. I did the ombudsmen thing for all that's worth? It is time the CCFR and the other Canadian firearms organizations look into this on members behalf. FOI requests would be a good start to try and find out what the hell is going on?
 
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I recently filed a complaint with the Ontario Ombudsman and was contacted by someone from that office today by phone to get some more info from me. So I would suggest it might be worthwhile others also file complaints with the Ombudsman also. At the least it documents a major issue with the CFO office delivering services.
 
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