Opinion needed on ROSS M1910 and Carl Gustav 1919 value

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Hello

A very good friend of mine has offered two of his rifles to me.

First one is a M1910 Ross.

I don't know how to tell if it was a sport model or just was sporterized. Bore is very very slightly pitted but bright.

Here are the pics;

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Second is a Carl Gustav 1919 full wood with bayonet and cleaning kit in excellent shape. Bore is shiny bright.

Here are the pics;

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I know there are fellows here who probably know these rifles in and out. So to be fair how much should I pay the guy for these rifles?

Your help is appreciated.
 
I'm not an expert.. not even close. But as you've asked I'll offer my opinion. I would say the Ross has been sporterized with a replacement stock. I believe all the Ross factory sporters were .280 and had a completely different stock. That said, I would love to have a .303 ross in any condition as they are an excellent rifle. It looks to me like you have a mk3 m1910.

That's all I can help with, I'm sure the veterans will pitch in :)
 
The swede is a full wood gun definitely not sported.

Thanks for your opinions. That is helpful.

I would welcome any others as well.
 
An overall pic of the mauser will help get better info.

Swede mausers don't pull as much as the K98's and the such, but some nicer ones start to get into the $400 range. I'd suggest that yours is in the $250-$350 range with $350 being the high end, $275 about average.
The ross is a nice sporter. People are asking ridiculous prices on the EE right now - maybe $200-$300? Yours has the benefit of possibly being an original sporter, but that's kindof ruined by not being original any more. Realistically you might only get a sale for less than $200, but worth trying for more.
 
I think the Ross was a factory model 10 sporter,(note the R on the barrel,I think it is a 1910R) they were made in .303 and .35 Winchester as well as .280. If the bore is good I think the Ross is a $350 dollar rifle tops. The Swede should fetch around $300 from what I can see in the pics maybe a little more if the serial numbers all match. I would offer $500 for the pair if presented with such an offer.

Skaal-tel said:
I'm not an expert.. not even close. But as you've asked I'll offer my opinion. I would say the Ross has been sporterized with a replacement stock. I believe all the Ross factory sporters were .280 and had a completely different stock. That said, I would love to have a .303 ross in any condition as they are an excellent rifle. It looks to me like you have a mk3 m1910.

That's all I can help with, I'm sure the veterans will pitch in :)
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The Ross' value is as a shooter. It is a good looking rifle, and it should shoot very well.
The M96 looks to be a nice one.
If they are as good as they appear to be, $600 might be reasonable for the pair.
 
tiriaq said:
The Ross' value is as a shooter. It is a good looking rifle, and it should shoot very well.
The M96 looks to be a nice one.
If they are as good as they appear to be, $600 might be reasonable for the pair.
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Ross could be swapped if you have a decent stock with junk bbl. etc.

I'd say a bit less for the Ross and a bit more for the M38, but the same total more or less.
 
Dead giveaway for a Ross Commercial Sporter is the SERIAL NUMBER n the left side of the Chamber, just above the wood line.

FURTHER giveaway is the Winchester rear sight which they came with from the factory.

THIRD giveaway is the FLAT-TOP Receiver Bridge.

This is definitely a Commercial Sporter, serial number about 1300 below mine.

It has been putting Moose on the table now for 95 years and it will do it for another 95 if you like. Slick, fast and accurate.

Surprised no full-length photos of the Carl Gustav, but original full wood, cleaning kit and bayonet should bring this to a $400 or so rifle.

Nice Toys!
 
I concur on the Ross being a restocked Sporter.

It would be nice to see a full length photo of the Swede. By the date, it began as a m/96 rifle with a 29 inch barrel. However, some of these were modified to the m/38 configuration with a 24 inch barrel. The big thing is, do the numbers match? The serial number is on the left side of the receiver, and the last three digits are marked on the bolt knob, cocking piece, sear, firing pin, floorplate, rear sight, barrel bands and butt plate. On the inside of the top handguard and in the barrel channel can be either the full serial number or the last three digits. Cleaning rod may or may not match, but this will not affect the value either way and is acceptable. Bore condition is very, very important. This one, according to the stock disk has a 6.50 mm bore in Condition 1, which is good. However, stock disks can easily be changed with a screwdriver, so be wary of accepting this information without a thorough examination to confirm the condition of the bore. 1919 was not a low production year, with 17,996 rifles being built.

The stock is Beech and the Sling is NOT the correct one as the Swedish slings are leather.

Is the muzzle threaded? Also, a picture of the stampings on the bottom of the stock at the wrist area just back of the trigger guard would help.

The amount of Swedish Military rifles coming into the country has greatly diminished, so prices are rising. If the bore is good, and numbers match, with a Bayonet and scabbard and hanger, then $350-$450 is not out of line.
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What happened with the Ross rifle didn't want it. If that's the case pass it my way. Even if their is no collector value to it the fun you could have hunting and shooting with it is awesome. They are great rifles
 
Kev303 said:
What happened with the Ross rifle didn't want it. If that's the case pass it my way. Even if their is no collector value to it the fun you could have hunting and shooting with it is awesome. They are great rifles
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I wound up buying it anyway. Also bought an AG42B. Bought all of them.
 
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