opinions - .22 tube fed semi-auto

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Looking for opinions on what people like/prefer for a tube fed .22 semi-auto rifle.

I thought I wanted a Nylon 66, but have decided I would prefer a more traditional one with the tube out front under the barrel.

Definitely would like one that can be fed not just LR, but also likes eating Long and Short as well.

Not a great area of knowledge for me.

Cheers,
sparky
 
My suggestion would be a Marlin model 60. Available in a couple of configurations. However, I wouldn't expect it to digest LONG or SHORT ammo. LR only. Sights on these vary from OK to dreadful, so I'd be planning on a scope/optic of some kind.

To that end, with the variety of LR ammo out there these days, I can't really see the appeal of shorts or longs unless you have allot of old stock ammo to get through...or...you like the idea of squeezing a few extra rounds of short into the tube. I'd scrap the S/L prerequisite or the only options will be (might be?) older model guns that ate everything.
 
Well its all on use... What are you using it for ?

I find if im so close I can use shorts, I just use my air rifle.

Everything else 22lr is fine for target and a fair amount of small game. Even still Ive smoked a couple of tree rats from 10 yards with 22lr and no issues.

The only game I have actually used my air rifle for (it hasn't come out of the safe for a year now) was when I had a chipmunk problem.
 
Are you looking for new or used?

Just got myself a vintage mossberg 151(c) and like it a lot !!
No issues cycling and very happy with the accuracy.
 
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Tube fed or magazine fed. Six of one and a half dozen of the other.

You are far less likely to lose the components of the tube feed but in reality the tube and detachable spring/plunger mechanism is nothing more than a magazine laid out lengthwise. Some nimrods claim the rifles with under barrel tubes change the harmonics as the tube empties and this has a negative effect on accuracy. IMHO there are other factors causing this but hey, any port in a storm where any excuse will do.

Magazines get LOST for all sorts of reasons, mostly because people insist on taking them out of the rifle and storing them separately for safety reasons or whatever. Such a practice is a recipe for frustration when its location is either forgotten or as in many estate cases its location was never revealed.

Buttstock tubes are my personal favorite but that's just IMHO because they feel right to me.

Recently I purchased a couple of Mendoza semi auto rifles from a good CGNer on the EE. I have used Mendoza built rifles in the past and was always impressed with them as far as fit, finish, accuracy and aesthetics go. They also seem to be very ergonomically well designed for most shooters.

The reason I'm mentioning the Mendoza in particular is that their brochures claim they will shoot long rifle and short rounds interchangeably. That isn't a claim to be taken lightly. Also they have an under barrel tube magazine.

Long story short, I mixed a tube full of shorts and long rifle cartridges to test function. When a short was fired the mechanism would not feed a long rifle cartridge that followed. It would however feed flawlessly if another short was in line.

Very nice little rifles with some sort of hardwood or synthetic stock at a reasonable price for a semi auto.

Why would you want to shoot shorts????? They are almost twice the cost of long rifle cartridges, when you can find them.
 
I would not consider the ability to use .22 Short or .22 Long to be a priority, given that both are often hard to find and expensive. Subsonic .22LR is easier to find if you want something quieter, but may or may not function well in semi-autos.
 
For a modern and current production rifle, look at the Marlin 60. I have one and it's fun, reliable, and as accurate as I'd expect. The open sights may be a bit off -- all of my Marlins have ever so slightly canted barrels. I don't let it bother me.

For a vintage rifle, look at the Savage 6 and Stevens 87. Often called "gill guns" or "gillies" for the open slots in the receiver (see my user pic). Also often called "clickety-clack guns" for the way the action works. On firing, the bolt opens to extract the fired case and then holds open for as long as you hold the trigger. The open bolt will be holding the next round in the extractor claw, ready to load. When you release the trigger the bolt closes and loads the round. Very neat action. Mine all have what feel like very long barrels for a 22 and are very accurate.

Rifles seem to start at about $100. Most I paid for one of mine was $120. Gun shops may tell you that the rifle is broken or not working properly because the guys -- particularly young guys -- behind the counter don't understand the bolt hold open mechanism.
 
I have a Winchester 77 tube fed, under the barrel. Beautiful rifle, functions great. The other tube-feds are a Taurus 63 (Win 63 copy), Norinco JW20 (Browning SA-22) copy, and Mossberg 151. These three are butt-fed and all work great. The 77 and the 151 are man-sized rifles.

I didn't think there was any semi that went to the bother to try to shoot anything other than LR.
 
as a guy who collects old Mossberg 22's.you'll be hard pressed to find a better 22 than these old Mossbergs for the price,super accurate even with cheap ammo.i own about 15 of them,and they are all great shooters,i also have a few Remington Nylon series riffles which are fun,but not as accurate,and usually way more money.if i was buying a modern one,i'd probably go for a Marlin 60.
 
Most likely used. I have no problems with a previously loved firearm; including ones no longer in production.

Are jou looking for new or used?

Just got myself a vintage mossberg 151(c) and like it a lot !!
No issues cycling and very happy with the accuracy.


Cheers,
sparky

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It is not that I want to necessarily shoot Long or Short. I want that option. Plus, I have a pretty decent sized cahe of .22Long.

What model of Mendoza? Is this a current produciton firearm? Has it been around for some time?


Cheers,
sparky


Tube fed or magazine fed. Six of one and a half dozen of the other.

You are far less likely to lose the components of the tube feed but in reality the tube and detachable spring/plunger mechanism is nothing more than a magazine laid out lengthwise. Some nimrods claim the rifles with under barrel tubes change the harmonics as the tube empties and this has a negative effect on accuracy. IMHO there are other factors causing this but hey, any port in a storm where any excuse will do.

Magazines get LOST for all sorts of reasons, mostly because people insist on taking them out of the rifle and storing them separately for safety reasons or whatever. Such a practice is a recipe for frustration when its location is either forgotten or as in many estate cases its location was never revealed.

Buttstock tubes are my personal favorite but that's just IMHO because they feel right to me.

Recently I purchased a couple of Mendoza semi auto rifles from a good CGNer on the EE. I have used Mendoza built rifles in the past and was always impressed with them as far as fit, finish, accuracy and aesthetics go. They also seem to be very ergonomically well designed for most shooters.

The reason I'm mentioning the Mendoza in particular is that their brochures claim they will shoot long rifle and short rounds interchangeably. That isn't a claim to be taken lightly. Also they have an under barrel tube magazine.

Long story short, I mixed a tube full of shorts and long rifle cartridges to test function. When a short was fired the mechanism would not feed a long rifle cartridge that followed. It would however feed flawlessly if another short was in line.

Very nice little rifles with some sort of hardwood or synthetic stock at a reasonable price for a semi auto.

Why would you want to shoot shorts????? They are almost twice the cost of long rifle cartridges, when you can find them.
 
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"It is no that I want to necessarily shoot Long or Short. I want that option."

Really, for all intents and purposes, not an option that exists. Or is needed with a semi. If you really want that ability, go to another action. Tons of bolts, pumps, levers can handle all three.
 
I do have those. Short of a break action (do they make those?), I want a semi with an under barrel tube magazine and the same ammunition capabilities to complete the circle.

Consider it part of my OCD. Wait until I start to ask about S&W 17/18/617 6-shot revolvers.

Cheers,
sparky


"It is no that I want to necessarily shoot Long or Short. I want that option."

Really, for all intents and purposes, not an option that exists. Or is needed with a semi. If you really want that ability, go to another action. Tons of bolts, pumps, levers can handle all three.
 
I have a Remington 550-1 that shoots S/L/LR interchangeably. It had a floating chamber that accommodated different length shells. I also have a couple of Winchester 190 and 290's. They shoot anything and are very reliable. I have had no issues with either of these when cleaned regularly. That is the trick with semi's. Keep them clean and wet.
 
I think that Remington is the only one making a semiauto that will feed all three common 22 rounds, but I don't have one so I'm not sure. I have a Nylon 66, it is light, very light, and while not atrocious, it is not that great. I have a Marlin Model 60 that took a few hundred rounds to get broke in, read that as a couple of enjoyable hours at the range. B ut now it is an accurate little rifle that feeds the 22LR rounds reliably and accurately. All for less than $150US 7 years ago.
 
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