opinions - .22 tube fed semi-auto
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I have a Savage/Stevens Gill gun. Also known as the Click Clack rifle.
Out of production but available used. Mag or tube fed.
Has a bolt handle that can be pulled out for semi auto or pushed in and use as a repeater.
This I find useful for shooting longs or shorts but more so for sub sonic long rifle
Very reliable, accurate and lots of fun.
Out of production but available used. Mag or tube fed.
Has a bolt handle that can be pulled out for semi auto or pushed in and use as a repeater.
This I find useful for shooting longs or shorts but more so for sub sonic long rifle
Very reliable, accurate and lots of fun.
Okay, so I have heard mention of the Remington 550 & 552, which I presume are essentially the same rifle, but with the 552 being an updated/altered/evolved 550. What is the difference between the two?
Also, I presume it is similar with the Winchester 190 & 290. Again, what are the differences?
If I am incorrect, please enlighten me.
Cheers,
sparky
Also, I presume it is similar with the Winchester 190 & 290. Again, what are the differences?
If I am incorrect, please enlighten me.
Cheers,
sparky
colonel3006
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My vote would deffinatly be the marlin 60. Never shot anything other than lr so can't comment on shorts or longs but is a very reliable little gun and the microgroove rifling makes it very accurate. The only complaint I ever had was the trigger. The factory triggers are quite heavy. For about $60 I put a mcarbo spring kit in and now it's around the 4lb pull. With that, Boyd's laminate stock and cheapo tasco 2.5-10x42 scope it will shoot under 1/2" groups at 50 yds.
Can I ask a silly question - why would you want to shoot anything but LR? Shorts will cost you (IIRC) double the price of sub-sonic LR. As far as Long go, I haven't seen any of that in ages.
If you are planning on using your .22 for hunting, especially road hunting, think twice about tube fed. They are a phoquing pain in the u-no-wot to load every time you get out of the car, whereas a clip
can just be popped in. A lot of guys (self included) sold tube fed .22's for that reason. Now, I have a Henry lever with a tube, but it's not used for hunting.As I mentioned earlier, it is to complete the circle. I have a bolt, pump, and lever with under barrel tube magazines. Plus I have a pretty large cache of .22Long.
As to sub-sonic. I also find the .22Long superior to .22Short. All my .22Long is sub-sonic. Is there even "super-sonic" .22Long?
I do have a Ruger 10/22 as well, if that puts your mind at ease. ;o)
Cheers,
sparky
As to sub-sonic. I also find the .22Long superior to .22Short. All my .22Long is sub-sonic. Is there even "super-sonic" .22Long?
I do have a Ruger 10/22 as well, if that puts your mind at ease. ;o)
Cheers,
sparky
Can I ask a silly question - why would you want to shoot anything but LR? Shorts will cost you (IIRC) double the price of sub-sonic LR. As far as Long go, I haven't seen any of that in ages.
If you are planning on using your .22 for hunting, especially road hunting, think twice about tube fed. They are a phoquing pain in the u-no-wot to load every time you get out of the car, whereas a clip
safehunter
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nevermind....
OP asked for semiauto. My recommendation of a bolt action cooey 60 doesn't fit the bill
OP asked for semiauto. My recommendation of a bolt action cooey 60 doesn't fit the bill
I'd echo Papaclaude's question, but it sounds like you're set on the idea shooting shorts/longs from tube-fed gun. I don't get it, but I don't need to either.
I could be 100% wrong in your case, but whenever I read questions like this..I wonder to myself whether or not the person asking the question is up to speed on what 22LR offerings are available. Searching-out a gun that digests ammo that is quickly becoming obsolete? Hey...I've made stranger gun decisions than that! Whatever "floats your boat!"Good luck, let us know what you end-up with.
The reason I mentioned the subsonic is that it's about as noisy as long, just a tad more than shorts, and is LR. As far as feeding, AFAIK, all 3 will feed from pretty well any tube mag, but cycling a semi with those will most likely be an issue, no?
Again, it is an OCD thing. Obsolete or not, it is what I am seeking. Why do guys buy firearms that require ammunition that is no longer mass produced? Who really needs a .50 cal rifle? Why did I convert a sporterized FTR Savage Lee Enfield, in outstanding condition, to a "jungle carbine (aka bungle carbine), and used actual jungle carbine wood, butt plate, and barrel band when I do not even shoot it once a year? Why do people eat Brussels Sprouts?
Cheers,
sparky
Cheers,
sparky
I'd echo Papaclaude's question, but it sounds like you're set on the idea shooting shorts/longs from tube-fed gun. I don't get it, but I don't need to either.
Good luck, let us know what you end-up with.
Now THERE is a good question.
Not judging...I've been down the same road myself. I've owned (and loved) rifles in 17M2, .351 Win., 22 Winchester "auto"~ALL a royal pain to find, the latter 2 especially. And EXPENSIVE!! These days (for me) life is complicated enough without having to treat oddball/obcsure ammo like gold...NOT shoot guns because I can't easily find the ammo to replace, etc. I'm mostly a "path of least resistance" guy when it comes to caliber choices. I hand load to get the right centerfire results I'm after, all my 22s eat LR ammo~just the way I like 'em. My Cooey 60 will gobble up anything, but there is no 22L ammo in my life anymore, and only a little 22 short left to get through. Most 22 short I have is the same stuff that's been sitting in the lock box for over 5 years!
+1 - I love mine. It was given to me by my father in-law. A total workhorse that never jams.
actually your Mossberg 151 will run shorts,long,and long rifle,most Mossberg 22's back then could handle all 3,including many using a mag designed to handle all 3 sizes,old Mossberg 22's are some of the nest built 22's you'll find,and you can't overlook that they are more accurate than anything made today,other that specialized target 22's.most of my Mossbergs will easily outshoot my 10/22's.had fun with a guy at the range that had over $1000.00 invested in a 10/22,and laughed when i sat down next to him with a Mossberg 144LSB,wasn't laughing so much when he saw my 10 shot groups were easily hidden with a dime with room left over at 50 yards,shooting cheap brick Rem Thunderbolt,better than bulk Thunberbolt,but i'm sure not by much,tried some his expensive ammo,but got worse,i guess old gun old style ammo is better,so if you can find a used nice old Mossberg,you'd have a seriously good 22 you'll be able to keep forever,but you also can't go wrong with an older Marlin 60 as well.excellent 22 .
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^^^^ This
The Remington 552 Speedmaster. Fires long rife, long and short interchangeably and mixed. The short is widely available and is perfect for stalking gophers especially with the excellent "big rifle" type of iron sight that the 552 has. Also groved for scope mounts, but I prefer the iron sight on mine.
In my experience, tube fed rifles feed more reliably than detachable box magazine rifles.
The Remington 552 Speedmaster will shoot all three semi automatically. It has a unique gas blow-back mechanism instead of a simple bolt recoil.
