The 6.5's amazing SD with a 140 grain bullet really makes you wonder about "needing" the newest latest 7.xx or .30 Super Macaroni blah-blah magnums. Been killing things for a very long time in Europe, and I'm pretty sure their moose aren't any tougher than ours. Only other caliber that's pretty comparable I can think of for mild manners and user-friendliness is the 7mm-08, another neglected one. Now I'm thinking a 6.5-08 might be needed....hmmm. I didn't sporterize one of my Swede 96's. Cleaned it right up and shoot the heck out of it. Barrel's long enough to make even a long shot shorter!