Opinions on a hunting rifle... Please.

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There have probably been thousands of "what about this rifle" threads - and I did some searching through them. But I couldn't find any answering the specific questions I have about a rifle that I'd interesting in buying to use for hunting, not for competition shooting.

It's the Savage 111 FCNS in .30-06. (And the 116 FHSS too, since it's nearly the same rifle, but with a stainless barrel instead of a blued barrel - at least as far as I can tell.)

Anybody here own one? If you do own one, could you give me an opinion on it? Likes and dislikes. How do you like the AccuTrigger and the AccuStock? Is this rifle as "out of the box" accurate as they claim? Anything you've shot that performs better in the same price range?

I'd appreciate the help... It'd be nice to have some real user input before I drop a huge pile of money on my first hunting rifle.
 
Hey,

I got a NIB Savage model 11 just 4 years ago in a 243 Win, ( short action of the 111 )

I'd never had a Savage before..... usually Rugers, Winchesters, Marlins, Remingtons

Wow !! was I impressed with the quality and accuracy , especially for the price
I had also looked at the SS in a 7mm-08 Rem calibre but eventually settled on the BBL in 243. ( that way my dauther can use it with no troulble )
I've got no complaints and as it sits now is one of my most accurate rifles that I own
I changed the recoil pad to an after market one for better protection ( yeah ! I dont like any felt recoil )
I've also topped it up with a good quality Bushnell scope and sling
I was concerned with the bolt and how it would action ...but it's very smooth and flawless
I also was not sure about the "accu trigger" never have owned / tried one before ...but again I was not disapointed ...I like it and I dont even notice any difference anymore than with traditional ones. Mine has a crisp and light trigger press
Mine also has the detachable mag and I love the top tang safety location ( 3 way )

Mine makes for a sweet rifle for varmints / deer at resonable distances
with one in 3006 you'd be going all around big game for sure

A friend of mine has one in 270 Win and loves it to


Keep you barrel clean and have fun choosing

Denis
 
While having little experience with Savage, I would advise that if you are hunting in dirty weather, I would select stainless steel.
If you're a fair weather hunter only, blued will do.
 
^thats excellent advice.
all else being equal, spend the extra $60-120 on a stainless rifle and save yourself years of hassle. its nice to be able to come in from the rain/snow and just lean your rifle against the wall to dry and relax, rather than have to stop and immediately strip and clean/oil it to keep it from corroding.
 
I had an accu-trigger fail on me when I was lined up on a nice buck. Couldn't get the pos to discharge. Traded it in on a Ruger 77, doubt that a Savage will ever grace my gun safe again. You get what you pay for.
 
I certainly approve of your choice of cartridge, the .30/06 remains the cartridge all others are compared to, and is well recommended for all North American game without reservation.

I'm not sold on the need for a stainless rifle. I own both stainless and carbon steel rifles, and both need to be properly maintained. If your idea is to buy stainless rifle and throw it in the corner after having it out in the weather it won't do much better than the blue steel rifle. There are those who believe that if the rifle is going to be exposed to sub zero temperatures then a carbon steel rifle is superior to stainless. You know its cold out when you bring your rifle indoors and it becomes frost covered and a couple of minutes later the frost melts and its dripping water.

When it comes to the specific rifle you want, consider the type of country you'll be hunting in. Ontario is a big place with very diverse topography. Most people prefer the look of a longish rifle and aesthetics are important, but a shorter rifle has the advantage over the longer rifle in thick cover while giving up little if any practical ballistic performance when a long shot is required. If you intend to hunt caribou in the Hudson Bay lowlands or deer in open farmlands of southeastern Ontario, you will do fine with a long rifle, but if you are going to traipse through the bush hunting moose or black bear along the north shore of Lake Superior, I would want something a little shorter.

Don't be unduly influenced by the need for sub MOA accuracy if your rifle will be primarily a big game rifle. Yes we all appreciate accurate rifles, but when hunting big game under practical field conditions we seldom have the need or the ability to shoot under 2 MOA, and most can't do that. Shooting tiny groups at the range is great for building confidence, but there are elements to the big game rifle that are more important than it's ability to shoot sub MAO groups. Think in terms of reliability and handling. Go to a gun store and choose your rifle by what feels right. Can you easily work the action without taking the rifle out of your shoulder? Don't buy a rifle just because its the cheapest one available. Perhaps you can find a better rifle for a similar price by choosing a used rifle. Always opt for quality regardless of your budget.
 
I own a savage 111 GL in .270 win. cal.
likes: accuracy,weight,balance,price, and overall "feel"
dislikes: Blind magazine.Its a pain having to rack the cartridges thru the action to unload before driving to another hunting location.
I would definitely spring the extra cash to get a detachable box magazine or hinged floorplate if I were to buy again.
Other than that its a good solid rifle and I like it alot!
HTH
Eric
 
You will probably be quite happy with that rifle, but every manufacturor does seem to make the odd lemon. If you like the look and feel of it, its probably as good as any.
 
Well darn, as I was reading these postings I was mulling over a reply. Then, Boomer comes along and gets points on two out of three subjects I was going to go on!
I was going to say how fed up I am getting on hearing people trash wood stocked and blue metal, for anything except dry and sunny conditions. My favourite big game rifle sits in it's special place without one speck of rust on it. I purchased it, a Husqvarna, new in December 1949. It was the second 30-06 I had owned and the third I had used. That Husqvarna has been carried on more mountains than most hunters will ever see. It's been in the worst of wet weather, just as one would expect to find in the mountains. I once paid good coin for a scope that was, "Guaranteed not to fog up." On the first mountain trip with it, the scope fogged up so bad that you litterally couldn't see through it! But, as I said, there is no rust on that rifle.
Boomer stated the accuracy required on a hunting rifle very well. I would even stretch his 2 inch figure out to 2½, including for mountain hunting. As I have stated I have hunted on more than a few mountains, but I never yet found a benchrest for shooting on any mountain! The longest shot I made, or ever tried, was on a caribou. There was nothing, whatsoever, to rest the rifle on. I tried to lay prone, but the grass was too high. So I sat, wrapped up in my sling and made the shot. In any hunting condition where the rifle is not rested on something and is held soley by the shooter, 2½ MOA shooting is very good.
I think 22 inches is about the best length foar a 30-06 class rifle. For a heavier calibre, I would like a longer barrel. Also, I have hunted more with 24 inch barrels than any other length, and never really felt handicapped because of a fairly long barrel. Well, maybe once I would have liked it a bit shorter.
Two of us were going up the north slope of a mountain. Anyone familiar with mountains knows the north side is the worst possible way to get through the bush on the side of a montain. How thick that bush can get and how the alders can twist and merge through it, just has to be seen to be appreciated. The hunter with me was an archer, so just had his bow. Guard duty fell to me with my trusty 30-06.
Just as the alders were starting to get thick, there was a path up the mountain side! I say path, but it truly and actually was, a mini tunnel. It was closed on top completely, by the twisted alders, as the grizzly bears had made a well beaten trail for going up and down the mountain! We had to hunch over to travel on it and could actually see how tall the grizzlies were, by the hair on the top of the "tunnel." A shorter rifle would have been handier, but I didn't have to use it.
As a point of interest, that mountain in central BC, that was loaded with grizzly and the best goat mountain I have ever seen, has for a number of years now, been put under the top class of protection. No travel of any type on it, in a large area.
Sorry if I got carried away from the topic here, but you did ask about a hunting rifle.
 
Thanks for the input guys.

Cleaning isn't really an issue for me. I used to like cleaning my C7 (the only rifle I've ever cleaned). I'm guessing I'll like cleaning my hunting rifle(s) too.

The only reason I'm considering stainless over blued is that I'm concerned about scratching/wearing the bluing off the barrel and either having it look like crap, or having to redo the bluing.

As for the accuracy - I know I'm going to be the least accurate part of the ammunition/rifle/shooter combination... Was thinking that I'd like to buy something that's consistent from shot to shot, so that while I'm learning to shoot I can focus on fixing me and the way I shoot instead of fixing the rifle and the way it shoots.

I guess I'll find out soon enough - my 28 day waiting period is up at the end of the week!
 
I recently bought a Savage 114 euro classic in 30-06. While I haven't ranged it yet (blasphemy I know, It feels great, and has excellent finish/function. Unless it can't hit the broad side of a barn door at 50 Yards, I would definitely recommend a savage.

I also own a much cheaper savage edge package. And though I think the stock looks like hell, it was inexpensive, and is accurate. Its bolt is much less smooth, as well as the detachable magazine, but it is still an accurate, functioning hunting rifle. ( .223 didn't want to drop tons of cash on a plinker/ odd varmint gun)
 
My savage SS corroded. I guess I didn't clean the bolt handle after I put it away (wiped the gun down after being out in -20) then when i went to grab the gun the next weekend the bolt handle was almost all rust, I got most of it off but its discoloured a bit and some minor pitting. Stainless Steel will still rust, although my tikka SS doesn't seem to corrode at all.
 
Well i have a slightly different, Savage 111 fcxp3 combo package, the stock scope sucks so i just threw in an extra 50-60 bucks for a typical bushnell 3200 elite 3-9x40, and it was alright.. not too happy with but then i bought new burris weaver rings for like 30 bucks and my god, with factory ammo i put consistently very close to 1" MOA and thats without a bipod, just using old wooden blocks, and it doesnt even have the accu-trigger, which would help because i dry fire it many times to just see my crosshairs after i pull the trigger you can see them twitch a bit, and even through all this it shoots pretty much 1.5" groups, i never though i would own a rifle capable of this, especially for the price and setup i have no, im extremely happy with the rifle

ps. i think you need to shoot around 50-60 rounds to break in the rifle because fresh out of the box the shots can be a lil more random and much larger groups, i was so discouraged when i first bought it, but slowly its becoming more n more accurate.
 
I have a couple of Savages, and because i like wood stocks, I made a concession and got them in thumbhole laminate, which i like, but the Accutrigger had to go first. The Riflebasix trigger that replaced it is much nicer, though not quite Jewel like, and both wear new barrels incl. one Shilen from Mystic. For boltguns I still prefer the 700, then the Savage, for the money, for serious hunting I prefer big cal. leverguns or single shots in .45 or .50 cal., just don't like any animal to suffer.
 
I have a savage 114 american classic Lh in .270 win and i would have to say it is one of the most accurate rifles i have ever used, plus has nice fit and finish.
The stainless over blued issue is nonexistant if properly maintained, a light wipedown with fluidfilm prevents rust and keeps the water from getting to the finish.

If you like the savage get it you most likely won't be dissapointed.
 
Blueing takes a very long time to wear. Most of the guns I have that have blueing loss are well used and from the 60s or earlier. Not an issue. I prefer blue/wood guns and a light wipe of oil keeps them looking nice for a long long long time. Stainless can rust too and its shiny-had my ss Ruger glass beaded to take off the gloss. My 110yr old Winchester 1894 still has blueing on the barrel but guns that tend to balance nice in mid carry like the 94 and the Savage 99 will see loss due to wear on the receivers. Still dont rust though.
 
My savage SS corroded. I guess I didn't clean the bolt handle after I put it away (wiped the gun down after being out in -20) then when i went to grab the gun the next weekend the bolt handle was almost all rust, I got most of it off but its discoloured a bit and some minor pitting. Stainless Steel will still rust, although my tikka SS doesn't seem to corrode at all.

i replaced the SS bolt handle on my savage with an oversized blued one.
the SS one has been sitting on the windowsill of my shed for at least 2 years now, year round, and shows no sign of rust.

im guessing there might have been something corrosive on your hands that caused just the bolt handle to rust that badly.
 
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