Opinions on BulkPack UMC Remington 9mm 1000 rounds & 45 cal. FMJ 500 rounds

[Challenger2010]

Guys,

Can you post your opinions on these bulk ammo packs made by Remington in both the 9mm and 45 caliber.

They come in 1000 round and 500 round respectively.

I've shot American Eagles, Blazer, and Sellier & Bellot so far. No Remingtons.

Are the rounds in these bulk packs the same as you'd get in the standard 50-100 round boxes, or are these manufacturer's reloads?????

Has anyone purchased these before, and if so, did you come across a lot of damaged/suspect rounds or misfires?

I have an opportunity to buy the 9mm at a good price, so I'd like to know if I should buy these or stay away.

 

[canmic]

I've shot a few of the 1000 rd boxes of UMC 9mm.

Some of my guns love it and group very well with it, others don't like it at all and don't group very well with it.

All of them feed and cycle just fine with it.

 

[Planetmail 12]

Have purchased a few 1000 rnd boxes of Remington UMC 9mm 115gr. Never had an issue with any round. It is my understanding that all rounds are new unfired and reloadable brass. I don't reload.....I should perhaps.

 

[saskcop]

I shot off one through my 1911 and FNP this week. Both in .45. Functioned and grouped very well

 

[Gatehouse]

It works fine.

 

[white_knight]

Very dirty I found with the .45 and their QC isn't as good as federal. I've bought 1000 round cases of .223 from federal, Barnaul and Remington but the UMC in each case has reversed primers or completely munched cases.

This is 300 rounds of umc

 

[kage123]

I prefer s&b.

For 9mm S&B is my go to.
Price is good, after several thousand rounds reliability has been 100 percent.

Umc I found to be dirtier than s&b or federal.
Federal annoys me because the boxes are too big for 9mm.

 

[Grawfr]

I did two separate tests last year comparing different 9mm ammo, shooting from a NR Beretta Cx4. This was the results of measuring groups of 20 rounds at 50m (discard 2 flyer, so they're 18/20 groups), shot from a front rest and rear sand bag:

http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php/1040413-The-Beretta-CX4-Thread/page31?highlight=Cx4

Winchester	White Box	115gr FMJ	7.2 MOA
CCI	Blazer Aluminum	115gr FMJ	6.4 MOA
CCI	Blazer Brass	115gr FMJ	8.0 MOA
Geco		124gr FMJ	4.8 MOA
Federal	American Eagle	115gr FMJ	6.6 MOA
Federal	American Eagle	124gr FMJ	5.4 MOA
Remington	UMC	115gr MC	6.6 MOA
Remington	UMC	124gr MC	8.2 MOA

CCI Blazer Brass 115gr FMJ - Group 1	3.9"	7.8 MOA
CCI Blazer Aluminum 115gr FMJ - Group 1	2.8"	5.6 MOA
Geco 124gr FMJ - Group 1	1.8"	3.6 MOA
CCI Blazer Brass 115gr FMJ - Group 2	2.1"	4.2 MOA
CCI Blazer Aluminum 115gr FMJ - Group 2	2.1"	4.2 MOA
Geco 124gr FMJ - Group 2	1.4"	2.8 MOA

All of that to say, with ammo, you get what you pay for. I class Remington UMC as plinking ammo, reliable but not really accurate, much like Winchester White Box.